Talk:Traffic pumping

A fact from Traffic pumping appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 October 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that local exchange carriers in the rural USA have partnered with phone sex providers in traffic pumping arrangements that earn them millions of dollars in phone connection fees?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2009/October.

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Biased (pro-Google) coverage

The article appeared overnight in the wake of AT&T complaint, and contains sourced but not substantiated allegations against members of congress. Pumping or not, Google has to play by the rules. It is also interesting that it was promptly promoted to the main page. 212.188.109.179 (talk) 11:19, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting that there is no reference to the original author of this article. I agree with the above comment and have added the POV tag. DQweny (talk) 11:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The original author of *which* article? The DailyFinance article raises the issue of conflict-of-interest with respect to Congress, and it's more of an editorial, so I should point that out in the article text. Is it better now? Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 14:02, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's a new issue, and I read about it and wrote the article because I thought it was an important and interesting topic. I usually submit newly-written articles to Template Talk:Did you know so that others, like yourself, can find out about them... I don't think there's anything suspicious about this :-). I agree that the article is slanted towards Google's point-of-view, but this is because I was not able to find any sources with a coherent pro-AT&T argument. If you find any, please add them. Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 14:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any particular bias against AT&T or for Google. The article reads like a very factual account with lots of references. It says Google is refusing some calls, which AT&T objects to, and also describes Google's accusations against AT&T. Like the article creator says, if anyone has relevant and sourced info, they are free to add it. I think the non-neutral tag should go. Facts707 (talk) 14:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the support! This is what I was trying to do. I do agree with DQweny that it'd be ideal if we had a source that explained AT&T's POV in more detail. Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 22:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My residual concern is that the two blogs cited in the references might not meet WP criteria for sources. Most blogs don't. It appears to be more a case of recentism than bias. DQweny (talk) 18:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concern, but I tried to cite those blog articles only insofar as they clarify Google's point of view on this issue (which I state to be their point of view). As it's an official Google blog, it should be a reliable source as far as explaining Google's official opinion. Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 22:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

relevant original source docs

FCC ruling regarding call blocking [[1]]
AT&T POV [[2]]
Pwellner (talk) 15:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic, thanks! These are really useful. I have incorporated them into the article where relevant. Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 15:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, that's really good! I was going to remove the neutrality tag but someone beat me to it. DQweny (talk) 18:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

US-centric: who cares?

I'm just asking the question...I am not aware of traffic pumping in other than the U.S. So it follows then, who cares if it's US-centric? Thus, there's no need for the US-centric tag. Please...if you know of other areas which have traffic pumping practices, add to the article, but it seems as if this is a consequence of the 1996 Telecomm Act.

I agree. Have removed tag. Barte (talk) 00:38, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Google now charges to connect calls.

Google is now changing 1 cent per minute to complete calls to traffic pumpers. Most calls in the US are still free, but traffic pumpers are not one of them.^[1]

Ploxhoi (talk) 13:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://support.google.com/voice/answer/141923?p=call_charges&rd=1

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