Talk:Trøndelag

Use of OECD Peer Review as an External Link

Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Evaluating_reliability would allow use of an OECD Peer Review report as a reference. It is certainly good enough to be an External link, which can be almost anything relevant and does not have to meet reference standards. Skål - Williamborg (Bill) 04:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The OECD report absolutely meets the criteria for a reference. But I don't feel it meets the requirement for an external link. There are no good relevent examples on Wikipedia:External links but I feel that the report lacks two mayor elements to be a good external link. First of all it is not neutral. While this is not an absolute requirement for an external link, it's a good guideline (OECD is comming with sugestions). Secondly the report is concerned with higher education, that does not unite with the topic of the article, namely the region in general.

Optimally the article is a good reference, so I challenge you, Williamborg and myself between us to use the report as a source concerning higher education and its challenges and possibilities in Trøndelag and add it to the article (and I'll just let the link stay for the moment). Is that a good solution do you think, or? Arsenikk 08:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Genocide"

The article says (concerning the Swedish rule):

This is known by some local Trøndelag historians as the genocide against the Trønders.

Since Jämtland (where I come from) and Härjedalen became Swedish before Trøndelag and still are parts of Sweden, one may wonder how much worse the "genocide" there was. I know that Jämtland and Härjedalen suffered a lot being handed over between Norway-Denmark and Sweden more than a dozen times in the 16th and 17th centuries, but not the suffering was not more severe than that there still are people living in the area. Since the Swedish impact on Trøndelag naturally must have much weaker, how can one speak about a "genocide"? If Trøndelag suffered a genocide, then Jämtland-Härjedalen must have suffered a complete extinction (which it didn't), right? I simply want to see some references for the claim that the event is denoted "genocide". Hunef 21:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hunted down the original source to the quote wich seems to be: A. Dybdahl og I. Bull (2005) Trøndelags historie; bind 2. 1350 —1850 Trondhem, Tapir Akademisk Forlag. I haven't validated the citation I won't put it into the wiki.

On the topic of the "Genocide" I would not beleive it to be untrue. It is in line with the common Swedish policy at that time. Another example is the annexation of Scania at the same time, however the genocide in that area took part at a later date (1680). Wernty 05:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Culture

I have to say that I find this section ridiculous. This is not even close to the quality standard Wikipedia should strive for. -- Nidator 13:57, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Central Norway vs. Middle Norway

As this source ([1]) shows the official English term is Central Norway, not Middle Norway. I will change the article accordingly. -- Nidator 15:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is room for three articles here, Trøndelag, Central Norway (redirect from Midt-Norge and Midt-Noreg) and Centre of Norway (which has been calcualted to be in Steinkjer municipality ([2])). -- Nidator 15:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the necessary changes. -- Nidator 16:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Øst-Trøndelag / Trøndeland

Jämtland and Härjedalen never was part of Trøndelag. "Øst-Trøndelag" and "Trøndeland" are simply jokes. Remvoed. Jon kare (talk) 09:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Härjedalen was most certainly an integrated part of Trøndelag, and so was Frostviken in Jämtland prior to it becoming Swedish in the 18th century as a part of a border treaty. The phrasing was perhaps a bit odd but after the Nordic seven years war in the 16th century the three provinces were administratively united in one entity. I think it's still worth a mentioning, and it does have it's own article (Øst-Trøndelag), I do agree on "Trøndeland" though. //Heimvennar - divider 14:17, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]