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Largest convention claim

First of all Northern Ireland is still part of the UK, not Ireland proper. That is sort of like saying that Alaska is part of Canada instead of the US. Second, a press release calling itself the "largest anime event in Ireland" is not usually accepted as a reliable source for such a claim. --TheFarix (Talk) 21:03, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Ireland, although being part of the United Kingdom is also part of the Island of Ireland. By your logic it would be impossible for a convention based in Berlin to claim it is Europe’s largest because it is based in Germany. I do not accept that our claim is false. Equally I have added a reference for the claim. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.168.231.2 (talk • contribs) .

The cited article that claims Tomo-Dachi is Irelands largest anime convention is written before the convention occurs. Due to this they can not know the final number of people that attended. They may have used the information given in the Tomo-Dachi press realease. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anaconda Riot (talk • contribs) .

Are there any other anime conventions on the Island of Ireland (as the article puts it)? If there are, can their numbers be confirmed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anaconda Riot (talk • contribs) .

As for the confirmation of the numbers what 'evidence' is needed? An announcement by the convention organiser, or is another source needed? Butch-cassidy 15:27, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well there was definitley less than 200 people at Tomo-Dachi '06. Anaconda Riot 21:45, 4/10/2006

On a single day, no, but over the whole weekend there were 200+. Butch-cassidy 13:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In that case the the numbers must have significantly increased on Sunday. Which is a possibility. Anaconda Riot 00:35, 23/10/2006

Colin, you yourself said there were only 90 people who attended by Saturday evening at the convention. There were certainly not over 100 extra people there on Sunday. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 136.206.1.17 (talk) 12:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Over the course of the weekend, and by the closing of the event, there had been just over 200 person registered with the event organisers in respect of entrance to the event. However it is true to say that during the course of a single day, there was not 200 person in attendance at any one time. I think this makes it hard for some people to come to terms with the attendance figures. I myself found it hard to believe at first. Also, I believe the comment above concerning Colin and attendance figures may be wrong because those figures themselves are wrong.Iamdani 19:44, 12/02/2007

I would like to add that if you are who I think you are you are mistaken. What I said was that we had 90 'NEW' people on Saturday. I would also like to remind you that first hand information like this is not admissable in Wikipedia. Butch-cassidy 19:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Country of origin

By the sounds of it Tomo-Dachi is a Northern Irish anime convention as opposed to an Irish anime convention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anaconda Riot (talk • contribs) .

I would suspect that most people living in Northern Ireland consider themselves "Irish." ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 16:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thats part of our bad political background. There is a difference between Northern Irish and Irish; the country your born in. Anaconda Riot 21:48, 4/10/2006

Correct however it does not remove the fact that we are on the 'Island of Ireland’ which even Wiki has as a separate article from either nation. Another example would be an anime convention on Cypris. It is based in Southern Cypris [The Greek controlled side], and is the only convention of its kind, and was the first. Can it claim to be the first on Cypris? Or must it only claim to be the first in Southern Cypris? Butch-cassidy 08:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning your example; to be specific it is the first in Southern Cypris. I'm not saying you are incorrect. But why use the term island of Ireland (which could mean North or South) when you mean Northern Irealnd? Anaconda Riot 00:27, 23/10/2006

Because we were the first on the Island, why shouldn’t we say what is true? No other anime conventions [Note that the lower claim is still under investigation] had been held on the Island of Ireland and I don’t see any reason why we should not publicize that. Butch-cassidy 10:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I never said you shouldn't say what is true. Don't wrangle my words. Anyway, the entry has been edited since I last read it. And I'm happy with the Northern Irish emphasis. The inital entry was vague about this due to your use of the island of Ireland. This topic was made concerning the origin, not whether you were first convention or not. Anaconda Riot 19:52, 25/10/2006

I did not mean to wrangle your words and I appologise. If we're agreed then thats that. :D Butch-cassidy 13:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First Anime Convention In Ireland Claim

This is incorrect as Trinity College's DUCCS society ran an anime convention in 2002. A conflict of date with the Irish_Games_Association's Gaelcon resulted in the convention not running again due to the lack of attendence.

Can you credit this infromation? It was completely unknown to me, and confirm that it was an anime convention, rather than anime at a gaming convention. In any case I'm looking into your claim. Butch-cassidy 10:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that I attened the convention - real low turn out on the saturday and went to gaelcon on the sunday. Sadly I do not know who the organisers are except that it was DUCCS and held in Trinity College. Possibly see if there is an archive of the college paper and hopefully it is in that.

I’ll continue to look into it and wait for the society to get back to me. BTW mate, you should register an account, there has been a lot of vandalism from your IP address, I assume it’s at work? You don’t want to risk being tarred with the same brush. Butch-cassidy 14:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looked into it alittle so far. I cannot find any online reference to the event, however i have emailed the society involved. I'm doubtful however because the societies own news page refers to the Dublin based 'Eirtakon' as the 'first anime convention in Rep. Ireland http://www.ducss.tcd.ie/page.php?name=index Butch-cassidy 11:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's also the arguement that the 2005 one-day event isn't considered a full convention. To quote the Wikipedia article on Anime Convention - "in most English speaking countries it is thought of a fan driven multi-day event gathering of fans to celebrate or participate in anime fandom with like minded people". If this is the case, then Dublin's Eirtakon would have been the first "convention", due to being a multi-day event. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.76.199.84 (talk) 14:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for posting. I do not follow your argument that a one day event is not an anime convention. Your Wiki quote [which you have not sourced BTW] does not prove anything. Wiki is not a dictionary and does not define; it is editable by anyone and can even contradict itself. For example here is a definition from the Anime convention page on Wiki.

An anime convention is a somewhat loose term used to describe any event or gathering in a venue where the primary focus is on anime and manga as an industry or as a fan event.

By that definition Tomo-Dachi 2005 is most certainly an anime convention. Even so if Tomo-Dachi ceased to exist at that point and didn’t go on to spawn further events I believe your argument might have some credence however by that argument you would be saying that many large US convention weren't cons when they started. AnimeFest, FAnimeCon, A-Kon, JAFAX all started as one day events. Butch-cassidy 10:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Second US Guests claim

I removed the claim that this convention had the second appearance of US guests. There were US guest appearances at Shinenkai 1998, Aya Again in 2003, and Amecon in 2004.[1] ...so it's more like fourth...at which point it's just silly to claim such a thing. --PatrickD 22:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing that up, I lacked such information and was wrong. --Iamdani 23:17, 13 February 2007

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Outdated?

This article is wrote in a manner that makes it sound like the 2007 Tomodaichi Con hasn't happened, when it is obvious it is 2008. Shouldn't this be updated? Unfortunatly, I have only found out about this event, so I do not have any avaliable information on this event whatsoever. Irish Plusle (talk) 13:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited the page to hold historical information only; it had too much forthcoming information that was not altered when the dates passed. I couldn't find any information online either about the convention, so I have added a 'last held' date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kymully (talk • contribs) 13:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]