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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: I'd strongly prefer that you provide sources in your DYK nominations next time, because I'm still not sure if the hooks are properly cited as I can't access the sources you used and I'm not sure if they specifically state Tommy is related to John Russel. ALT2 isn't passing, that's for sure; feels like it was written for April Fools. AdoTang (talk) 19:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Again, issues with the sources. Looking it up confirms Tommy is in the music video, but it doesn't seem any sources in the "Music video" section mentioned this, at least from what I could tell from a skim; I have bothered to add one that clearly states Tommy's there. Thankfully, ALT1 is properly sourced, so no issue there. Also, again, ALT2 isn't passing, except more so because the wording of that hook doesn't specify that he's only in the music video and not the song itself (as far as I can tell). AdoTang (talk) 19:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am reopening this nom, on the grounds that it has been suggested that Ur Mum go into April Fool's Day, but also because the approved hook did not include Villiers' article, meaning it would have been wasted.--Launchballer06:35, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
theleekycauldron: with Ur Mum on the April Fools' Day page after having been promoted to prep and then withdrawn for next April 1, it seems that the two articles should be split into two nominations. Since this page is named for the Tommy Villiers article, which was not promoted, Ur Mum should probably be the one getting the new page, albeit with the same nom date and seniority, and that page should be the one at April Fools'. Can you please take care of this bifurcation? I've struck ALT2 based on the reviewer's comments. Thank you very much. (Query: is ALT1 really sharp/strange enough for April Fools? It strikes me as more of a quirky...) BlueMoonset (talk) 04:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron, BlueMoonset, and JennyOz: Tommy Villiers has been boldlinked at the Feel It hook and has been promoted, so I've hidden his part, and we can concentrate on the other half of this nom. It was suggested here that we run Ur Mum on Halloween; are we running it then or April Fool's? I would suggest that for the former we haven't got long.--Launchballer11:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've pulled the Tommy Villiers links from this page, so although the page is named for him, he's no longer mentioned in the header nor has a DYKmake credit. I will defer to theleekycauldron as to whether Ur Mum is truly appropriate for April Fools (it seems a bit weak to me, and it may not be chosen when next April rolls around, in which case it would be running sometime next April); my feeling is that it is not truly appropriate for Halloween and shouldn't be added to the list of hooks for that day, and if it also isn't suitable for April Fools, it should be moved back to the Approved page and run as a regular unscheduled nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd strongly prefer that you provide sources in your DYK nominations next time, because I'm still not sure if the hooks are properly cited as I can't access the sources you used and I'm not sure if they specifically state Tommy is related to John Russel. ALT2 isn't passing, that's for sure; feels like it was written for April Fools. AdoTang (talk) 19:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
Again, issues with the sources. Looking it up confirms Tommy is in the music video, but it doesn't seem any sources in the "Music video" section mentioned this, at least from what I could tell from a skim; I have bothered to add one that clearly states Tommy's there. Thankfully, ALT1 is properly sourced, so no issue there. Also, again, ALT2 isn't passing, except more so because the wording of that hook doesn't specify that he's only in the music video and not the song itself (as far as I can tell). AdoTang (talk) 19:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)