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Notability

Minor League baseball players are under contract with a 'Professional' team, having to be stored in lower class teams, but still 'professional' players with stats. These type of minor league stub can further knowledge of the player by fans in the seats (with Blackberries etc, thus more webhits) or team scouts. WP:ATHLETE and 'people of notability' doesn't take into account that a 'player' and a 'person' of notability are two different things. A 'person' is vague to define. A 'player' of notability, say a minor league baseball player, does have stats and awards to his name sometimes, and these stubs can add perfectly to what Wikipedia was meant to be in the first place! I have reliable references and always note the stubs accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gjr rodriguez (talkcontribs) 16:11, April 2, 2009

Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Notability guidelines says:

Minor league players, managers, coaches, executives, and umpires are not assumed to be inherently notable. To establish that one of these is notable, the article must cite published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject. Fan sites and blogs are generally not regarded as reliable sources, and team sites are generally not regarded as independent of the subject. Although statistics sites may be reliable sources, they are not sufficient by themselves to establish notability. (Articles that are not sourced to published material providing significant coverage of the subject [beyond just statistics sites] may be nominated for deletion.)

Therefore, something else must confer notability. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 21:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

2008 Texas League RBI champion

This source - http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=MRTB&p_theme=mrtb&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=12319F4584F495D0&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM - states that he was the 2008 Texas League RBI champion. I am unsure what to do in the situation of "archived" pages which are not publicly accessable. Borgarde (talk) 12:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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