Talk:Tom Wills/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Roisterer (talk · contribs) 05:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Unfortunately I don't have the time in the forseeable future to properly review this article but I have made some very minor edits and here are a few of my thoughts upon reading this (very good) article:[reply]

The article refers to "aboriginals" in lower case quite often. I understood it was now accepted practice to always capitalise "Aboriginals" (and in my day job of writing on Australian Aboriginal issues, capitalising Aboriginal is the accepted practice).
Under the "Colonial hero" section, you will need a ref for the statement regarding Wills trading punches with MCC members.
As an aside, it would be great to get the first poem on Australian rules football in Wikisource.
In the "Victoria reigns..." section, you will need a ref for the Victorian Cricketers' Guide quote.
We should be able to find the name of the Attorney-General referred to re struggle on the station.

As mentioned, this is not part of the official review; just some thoughts following a quick read through. Cheers --Roisterer (talk) 05:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seems a bot has decided I am doing the official review for the article so I will have another look through when I have the chance. --Roisterer (talk) 04:59, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The name of the Attorney-General is not given in de Moore's book, but the man serving as the Attorney-General at the time was Ratcliffe Pring. Would it constitute original research to add his name? - HappyWaldo (talk) 03:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, that should be fine. --Roisterer (talk) 05:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is the review still going on? If you don't have time I can just put it back in the queue. Wizardman 02:49, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While I haven't had much time to go back over it, I notice that some of the earlier points I raised have not been addressed. In my mind it is a very good article that needs primarily some references added, so hopefully my initial concerns are dealt with and then we can work from there. --Roisterer (talk) 03:51, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For the "best cricketer in Australia" quote, should I cite the primary source (Victorian Cricketers' Guide) - which is extremely rare - or a more recent book which can be found in most libraries? Also I'm still not sure which instances of aborigine/aboriginal should be capitalised and which should not. Perhaps a major contributor on a related page can make the corrections. - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I just realised you had posted here. I have gone back over the article and besides a few typos (and changes that may well not have been required). To answer the "best cricketer in Australia" question first, feel free to use a secondary source. Also, I'm happy to go with your choice on the Aboriginal/aboriginal divide.

Besides this, I find the article to be excellent quality; very well written and sourced and a very interesting read about one of the biggest figures in Australian sporting history. --Roisterer (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Roisterer. I added a ref for the "best cricketer in Australia" quote. Do you know a user who could sort out the capitalisation issue? - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure of a particular editor but I found this from Monash University on writing on Aboriginal Australians and Torres Strait Islanders. It recommends capitalising, but I'll have see if Wikipedia has a style guide on this issue. --Roisterer (talk) 04:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The featured article Yagan capitalises "Aborigines", but it's only mentioned once. - HappyWaldo (talk) 11:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And as far as I can see, the Wikipedia Manual of Style regarding Capital letters doesn't seem to help either... --Roisterer (talk) 07:04, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Search results are really 50/50. Nonetheless I have gone ahead and capitalised "Aborigines" on the back of this: "Always capitalise ‘Indigenous’ and ‘Aboriginal’ when you’re referring to Australian Aboriginals, but not when you are referring generally to the original inhabitants of other continents." - HappyWaldo (talk) 07:36, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great stuff. I will now go through the paperwork required to officially make this a Good Article. --Roisterer (talk) 00:00, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]