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Proposed Merge

The proposed merge with Joaquim Jose da Silva Xavier seems completely incontestable to me. Mucky Duck 22:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC) I agree. Macgreco 21:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Pages merged. I will clean it up soon. Macgreco 01:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification needed

"Ten members of the group were sentenced to death; all of them – except Tiradentes – had their sentences, by mercy of the Queen, commuted from death to degradation."

What, exactly, does this mean? It's not clear at all and sounds like it is a passage that has been copied and pasted from another source. Typically, Wikipedia editors are more straight-forward and would say "life imprisonment" or "loss of liberty" or "exile" and not use the ambiguous euphemism "degradation". What kind of penalty does this consist of? I'm guessing only a scholar of Brazilian or Portuguese history can answer that question. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 22:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Inconfidência Mineira page states that those originally sentenced to death (excepting Tiradentes) were banished to Portugal's African colonies permanently. Degradation, in this context, would include the loss of property, titles, rank, etc.

Carter (talk) 11:06, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the explanation is much simpler. "Degradation" is probably a mistranslation of the Portuguese word "degredo", meaning "banishment". The inconfidentes whose sentences were commuted were, indeed, banished to Africa, as pointed out above.

Denis Mattos ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 04:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tiradentes Background

Hi! I saw this article and as I have researched the history of Brazil I want to add that "Tiradentes" was a son of a very wealthy family who has owned about a 35 slaves, and were owners of goldmines.They were very well educated people, his father was a man of great influence in Brazil. Unfortunately he was not an abolitionist, as it is stated, but a nationalist. The "republicans" of that time were against freeing the slaves. At the age of twenty "Tiradentes" had made a good career in various professions thanks to his families wealth.