Talk:Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 August 2024 – present)

WARNING: ACTIVE COMMUNITY SANCTIONS

The article Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 August 2024 – present), along with other pages relating to the Russo-Ukrainian War, is designated by the community as a contentious topic. The current restrictions are:

Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area, though editors who are not extended-confirmed may post constructive comments and make edit requests related to articles within the topic area on article talk pages. Should disruption occur on article talk pages, administrators may take enforcement actions against disruptive editors and/or apply page protection on article talk pages. However, non-extended-confirmed editors may not make edits to internal project discussions related to the topic area, even on article talk pages. Internal project discussions include, but are not limited to, Articles for deletion nominations, WikiProjects, requests for comment, requested moves, and noticeboard discussions.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be sanctioned.

Remedy instructions and exemptions
Enforcement procedures: Violations of any restrictions and other conduct issues should be reported to the administrators' incidents noticeboard. Editors who violate any listed restrictions may be blocked by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offense. An editor must be aware before they can be sanctioned.

Military history: Russian & Soviet / Post-Cold War BL‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

BL

This article has been rated as BL-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Russian, Soviet and CIS military history task force
	Post-Cold War task force

Russia: History / Military Low‑importance

	Russia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Wikipedia. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the history of Russia task force.
	This article is supported by the Russian, Soviet, and CIS military history task force.

Ukraine Low‑importance

	Ukraine portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ukraine, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ukraine on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.UkraineWikipedia:WikiProject UkraineTemplate:WikiProject UkraineUkraine articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Reportedly Spotted?

1st August

An anti-tank missile vehicle was "reportedly spotted" by a Ukrainian drone.

To be clear, might it not be better to mention that there are unconfirmed reports of the vehicle, or that it is claimed that the vehicle was spotted?

For is not the use of the two words in this fashion strange or conflicted? 2.27.2.80 (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change timeline boundary?

IMHO the timeline boundary between this section and the one before should be set at the beginning of the InKursksion. True it's still pretty recent, but it certainly has altered the conversation globally and is way more important than arbitrary dividing lines like the change of month... 2001:A62:144B:A02:BC1D:92B9:2D5:8E27 (talk) 16:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why should we align with the start of the Kursk incursion? I don't agree that it's "altered the conversation globally", as the only thing its changed is there's some fighting in western Kursk Oblast; this isn't a major offensive, and it hasn't changed anything about the war as a whole when the meaningful battles are still taking place in eastern Ukraine; there's some much more impactful points in the war where other timelines could be split at, but aren't, so I don't see how Kursk should be an exception. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 16:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This war like all modern wars is very much also about perception. I do not claim to be able to make a military assessment – I have no military experience of any kind and the information about troop numbers etc. are too obscured by fog of war anyway.

However – if you look at media coverage, the shift has been dramatic. Before the incursion the "best" that was said about Ukraine was along the lines of "holding Russia back, inflicting heavy losses on Russia" but the consensus was more along the lines of "Russia's advance may be slow and costly – but ultimately, they're still advancing and Ukraine won't hold out indefinitely". Now the most pro-Russian things you hear are about Ukraine's "escalation" or "provocation" along with supposed "over extension". Meanwhile more pro-Ukrainian voices seem to be resurrecting the "dumb Russian" carricature from early in the war.

The military situation may or may not have changed. But perception very much has. 2001:A62:144B:A02:BC1D:92B9:2D5:8E27 (talk) 18:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge

Ukrainian forces destroyed a bridge in Kursk Oblast to prevent Russian forces from reinforcing the recently occupied area.^[1]~""""~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.197.30 (talk) 06:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear Plants

The International Atomic Energy Authority voiced concerns about the Kursk nuclear power station being affected by the war.^[2]~""""~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.197.30 (talk) 06:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Military Target

Might it not be helpful to highlight the point that the Russian missile strike on Poltava (of 3 September) was not targeting civilians - but was aimed at taking out a military target?91.110.75.94 (talk) 20:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ 24 Horas; 17/08/2024
^ 24 Horas (Spanish TV channel)|24 Horas]]; 26-27/08/2024

[1] 24 Horas; 17/08/2024

[2] 24 Horas (Spanish TV channel)|24 Horas]]; 26-27/08/2024

[1]

[2]