Talk:Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the early 20th century

Text and/or other creative content from Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 20th century was copied or moved into Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 1950s. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 20th century was copied or moved into Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 1960s. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 20th century was copied or moved into Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 1970s. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 20th century was copied or moved into Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 1980s. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 20th century was copied or moved into Timeline of LGBT Mormon history in the 1990s. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Lists Unassessed

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's quality scale.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Latter Day Saint movement Low‑importance

	Latter Day Saint movement portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Mormonism and the Latter Day Saint movement on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Latter Day Saint movementWikipedia:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movementTemplate:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movementLatter Day Saint movement articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

LGBTQ+ studies

This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBTQ-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.LGBTQ+ studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesLGBTQ+ studies articles

Pastelitodepapa (talk) 01:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pastelitodepapa (talk) 01:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pastelitodepapa (talk) 01:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pastelitodepapa (talk) 01:40, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pastelitodepapa (talk) 01:49, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re-examining July 1908 Listing

Upon reading the source article for the July 1908 entry, I think this example should be removed or at least heavily qualified in the main text of the wiki. While I do not have access to Quinn’s commentary, the historical news article says that the crime committed by the seven boys on the camping trip was “an unnameable offense.”

Rather, per the news article, the prosecutor in the case against Superintendent Thomas, used the phrase “horrible orgy” to describe the whipping that the boys received. Orgy does not refer to what the boys were punished for—it’s used to describe the sounds of their screams while being whipped, which were partially drowned out by the school band practicing outside. “Orgy” here appears to use something like the first definition listed by Merriam-Webster at https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/orgy, as “secret ceremonial rites … usually characterized by ecstatic singing.” A possible implication here is that the boys’ screams were a “horrible” version of orgiastic singing, with the whipping performed in secret as connoted by the word “orgy.”

While this article and occurrence are of historical interest, there is no evidence that they are connected to Mormon LGBT+ history. I would be interested to see Quinn’s commentary on this item from the citation, but absent direct discussion from him, I believe this entry should be removed from the wiki. Winterad (talk) 10:53, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your input. Quinn's secondary source book synthesizes dozens of articles and other primary sources to discuss this event, and it's clear from the investigation of the school in 1909 that the boys engaged in sexual behavior on the camp out. I put another primary source reference as a starting point and included some quotes from the report. You are correct that the specific primary source previously listed, the Tribune article does not explicitly discuss the nature of the boys' behavior. I recommend reading Quinn's book pages 325–327 for more information. Pastelitodepapa (talk) 02:01, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]