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Haugen writes: "Another indication of Tidehverv’s early influence is a statement quoted in Nationaltidende (February 10, 1952) from then Minister of Church Affairs, Carl Hermansen, who observed that “the original grundtvigian and the original inner mission practically do not exist any more. Denmark of today is tidehvervsk” (Bramming 1993, 84), meaning that the whole country was influenced by the “New Era” magazine."

Haugen also uses the expression "parish priest" to translate "sognepræst".·maunus · snunɐɯ· 05:28, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Its pretty clearly a hyperbolic statement and it should not be taking out of context, and "original" is a key word here (both movements developed, but both remained in possession of important institutions, folk high schools, mission houses, seminaries etc. that gave them a lot more outreach than an academic "club" like Tidehverv). The new wording is better than the old one, but its still not sensible to use that quote in the article as its misleading to someone without background knowledge of the subject.--Batmacumba (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Priest is usually used for Catholic clergy in English, whereas you use minister, vicar etc. for Protestant clergy, there is no particular reason to translate "sognepræst" directly rather than just call them a pastor as pastors usually lead a congregation.--Batmacumba (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are different kinds of clergymen in the Danish church, depending on the kind of congregation they lead. Parish priest is therefore more informative than "pastor". I don't think it is misleading to stress the importance of the Tidehverv movement in Danish theology. It is however misleading to call it an "academic club" - it was a movement with a wide participation. Today, it is sort of a club for conservative theologians, but that was not the case originally.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 08:13, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]