Talk:Tibor Rosenbaum

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banque de crédit International of Geneva

It is very modest of Mr Rosenbaum's supported to leave out his entrepreneurial activities which have occupied a main chapter of his life after ww2 until his death.

88.69.11.37 (talk) 08:05, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rosenbaum - BCI - Lansky crime money

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1982/eirv09n30-19820810/eirv09n30-19820810_046-the_frankfurt_mafia.pdf

A very good article describing how Rosenbaum was connected with Meyer Lansky and the Frankfurt "Kosher Nostra".

88.69.11.37 (talk) 08:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NY Times about BCI and Rosenbaum's money laundering

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/04/09/archives/a-global-bank-tangle-and-its-lost-millions-behind-israeli-arrest-an.html

88.69.11.37 (talk) 08:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

From German wikipedia's Meyer Lansky article:

Ein weiterer Mosaikstein in Lanskys internationalen finanziellen Verflechtungen war die Beziehung zur Banque De Credit International in Genf, die von Tibor Rosenbaum in den 1950er Jahren gegründet worden war und 1976 in Insolvenz ging – verbunden mit einem erheblichen Prestigeverlust für die ihr zuletzt eng verbundene Hessische Landesbank.[14] Der Diplomat und Geheimdienstmann Rosenbaum finanzierte ursprünglich über die Bank Waffenkäufe für Israel. Für Lansky, der Rosenbaum erstmals 1965 getroffen hatte, eröffnete die Bank auch eine Verbindung nach Israel.[15]

google translate:

"Another piece in the mosaic in Lansky's international financial ties was the relationship with Banque De Credit International in Geneva, which was founded by Tibor Rosenbaum in the 1950s and went bankrupt in 1976 - combined with a considerable loss of prestige for the Hessische Landesbank, which was most recently closely associated with it. [14] The diplomat and secret service man Rosenbaum originally financed arms purchases for Israel through the bank. For Lansky, who first met Rosenbaum in 1965, the bank also opened a connection to Israel. [15]"

I am very sorry for Rosenbaum's fans who are trying to portrait him as a Schindler-like saint, but he it not.

Please feel free to start an edit war and delete as you like; the sources mentioned above are all publicly available on the internet.

88.69.11.37 (talk) 08:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is a huge disproportion between Rosenbaum's financial activities and the fact that he bravely saved hundreds, maybe thousands, of lives. 78.71.32.183 (talk) 11:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How does one formally argue against the text in the article? There is mention of "fraudulent financial activity" but there is no ground for the accusation other than hearsay. Additionally, some of the sources quoted are distinctly unpleasant. 81.185.162.90 (talk) 17:46, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What is "unpleasant" about these sources, darling?

German investigative magazine DER SPIEGEL went even deeper:

https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/saugnapf-im-ausland-a-18c940d2-0002-0001-0000-000041136324 84.59.183.200 (talk) 08:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]