Talk:Thorsten Hohmann

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Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

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Contradiction and gibberish

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– Apparent contradicitons explained/figured out.

Q: The article claims that both Hohmann and Reyes won the 1996 IPT Championship, and I am not certain that the wikilink to it in Hohmann's case is correct (it goes to the North American championship, not the world one. The original text said "World" in the prose but wikilinked to "North American", so the current text is just my guess, and an attempt to make it not contradictory.) Also, there is a sentence, "Thorsten made history by being the first pool player to win a major International Pool Tour event.", which does not actually make any sense. Either words ("German?") are missing, or it's just nonsense, since being the first to win a new event does "make history", and of course the first person to win a pool tournament would be a pool player. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 13:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A: The article claims that they won these IPT titles in 2006 not in 1996. There is no problem here because there were several IPT events named as Championships (see here [7]). Straight pool championship that Hohmann won in the same year had no any relationships with IPT, it's a different tournament. Partially i can explain sentence "Thorsten made history by being the first pool player to win a major International Pool Tour event.", indeed there were several others IPT event before this one (see link above again), but this was the fist with such big number of participants and prize money, so it wasn't fist IPT event but the biggest at that moment. 81.9.124.199 21:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take your word for it. Most of this stuff is unsourced anyway, so as the article becomes better sourced, the details will get clarified. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 01:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

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– Photo restored.

I have removed my personal photo that I contributed to this article as the above-referenced block states that this photo does not meet the encylopedia guidelines. RailbirdJAM 15:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No need to do that, and I see it is back. It should just be replaced by something less washed-out by flash some time in the future when we have a better picture. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Hohmann in the "American Pool Player" category?

Resolved

– Inappropriate category removed.

Though I am well aware that Thorsten Hohmann competes in many pool tournaments in the United States, he is a German pool player, I had thought, and not an American. Today, he resides, subject to check, in New York City, but he is not an American citizen. Should he still remain in this category or be placed in a German Pool Player category? Please advise. RailbirdJAM 12:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think he was in both. I have seen discussions of this sort of thing elsewhere, and side with the argument that unless he obtains citizenship he shouldn't be listed as American, even if he is a permanent resident. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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