Talk:Thorne–Hawking–Preskill bet

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Three bets.

There's actually three different T-H-P bets: the old nakedness bet, the new nakedness bet and the info bet. All three of these should be noted here, but I'm not sure if it'd be best to do it in sections, or with a disambiguation page. --Cgranade 21:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Put it on here, under sub-headings. Please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.136.170.20 (talk) 09:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed gallery

I've removed the gallery from the article. Simply put, this only serves to show the three men involved in the bet, something which is already done on each person's article. Furthermore, it doesn't illustrate this article, which is the reason for illustrating an article to begin with. Just because we have free images doesn't mean we should use them "just because". EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still, it would be nice to see the three people concerned on this page. How exactly could a picture represent this article? Handing over encyclopedias?

you could use photoshop maybe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.72.81 (talk) 03:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ashes comment

I've not seen the context of the original quote but could he have been making a joke in line with the cricket ashes? This may be the case if it was made for an English audience esp seeing as though baseball is a rough equivalent to cricket. Just a thought. Tigerman2005 (talk) 10:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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1974, not 1975

Tonight's NOVA episode showed Kip Thorne holding and talking about the original document for the earlier bet, which he said was made in 1974. The document was handwritten by Thorne, signed by both men, stamped with both British and US postage, and finally bears Hawking's later fingerprint with the words "Conceded Stephen Hawking June 1990." The witness statement at the bottom of the document--which could only have been added at or after the time the bet was made--states "Witnessed this tenth day of December 1974". The witness signatures include one that is completely illegible, one that reads approximately "Anna Zythar", and one that is almost certainly Werner Israel's.

A low-quality scan of the same document can be seen online at http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~sav2/blackholes/xrays/Hawking_Thorne_wager.jpg .

So I'm inclined to change the year of the bet in this article and in the Cygnus X-1 article in spite of the fact that Hawking, much later, clearly said "we made the bet in 1975." Any objections? 98.247.224.9 (talk) 06:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]