Talk:Thetis Blacker

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RfC about the article resembling the obit

This RfC was closed because consensus was reached to rewrite the article. gwendy (talk) 14:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RfC: Article closely resembles obituary

I was trying to clean up the references in this article and it became increasingly clear that the entire Ann Thetis Blacker article closely resembles the obituary in The Independent. Another reference directly plagiarises the obituary in The Independent, copying whole sentences (e.g. "A phoenix rising from the ashes was a favourite subject, a typically fiery example being featured on her altar frontal in St George's Chapel").
What should happen with an article like this? Rewrite w/ more sources? Something else? Thanks! – gwendy (talk) 04:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It looks quite possible that this topic does not qualify as WP:notable; certainly the blog post and the obituary currently used as the only secondary sources in the article do not really suffice to meet WP:GNG, nor WP:NARTIST. While some searches did turn up a handful of pages (social media, non-independent commercial pages and the like), none meet WP:Reliable source standards. You might consider nominating the article via WP:AfD, but if you'd rather not do so and your focus is purely on the WP:copyvio issues, then its simply a matter of altering the wording of the article so that it does not directly replicate the content of those sources, but rather summarizes them in an encyclopedic fashion. Snow ^{let's rap} 16:14, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If a good-faith search for sources has failed, the best thing is to take it to AfD. Don't waste your time trying to fix it if it doesn't belong. Siuenti (talk) 20:43, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I tried another search in good-faith, as you suggested. I found that Blacker actually goes by "Thetis Blacker" (no Ann) and was able to find additional sources as a result. I moved the article and will do more to clean it up with the additional sources I've found. Thanks for taking a look! – gwendy (talk) 03:15, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stub ify If there are sources, rewrite, if not stub. L3X1 (distant write) 15:46, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's best to immediately remove anything which closely paraphrases the source and build it back again in a clean version. In fact, if you don't mind rewriting everything, you could ask for the whole history to be deleted as contaminated by copyright problems. Siuenti (talk) 21:25, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Me? Nah, I'm not a happy content editor, but you can ping and admin to revdel all the bad edits. L3X1 (distant write) 22:14, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

comment - Gwendy has taken the right action. A simple Google search brought this up so it's not a GNG issue, it's a copy edit issue, and a snow close would be appropriate. ^{Atsme📞📧} 11:07, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.