Talk:The Pony Remark

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September 27, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA Review

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This article was nominated for good article status. The review began on September 26, 2009. Below is an evaluation of the article, according to the six good article criteria.

I'll be reviewing the article for GA status.--Giants 27(c|s) 15:32, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1. Well written?:

Prose quality:

Manya reacts angry doesn't make sense. Try to which Manya reacts angrily.
When, after the dinner should probably be After the dinner, when.
Isaac informs him that Manya had forgotten all about it sounds like a fragment.
When it starts to rain Jerry realizes that the game will be postponed same as above.
Seinfeld co-creators Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld wrote the episode. The episode's premise was based on a remark David once made during a conversation. "The Pony Remark" is the first episode in which Kramer wants to gamble, it is later established that he has a gambling addiction. The idea of Elaine asking Isaac what is going to happen with his old apartment was added during rehearshals. The episode's director Tom Cherones, deliberately made Elaine sit at a smaller table, while directing the dinner scene. Sounds like a collection of thoughts rather than a paragraph.

Any suggestions to how I can change this?--Music26/11 16:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try, ''Seinfeld co-creators Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld wrote the episode, which was based on a remark David once made during a conversation. The episode's director Tom Cherones, deliberately made Elaine sit at a smaller table, while directing the dinner scene. "The Pony Remark" was the first episode in which Kramer wants to gamble, it is later established that he has a gambling addiction. The idea of Elaine asking Isaac what is going to happen with his old apartment was added during rehearshals. Sounds better in my opinion since the thoughts are together and flows better.--Giants 27(c|s) 18:39, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Music26/11 19:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was changed back to Helen later. It was later changed back to Helen sounds better in my opinion.

Manual of Style compliance:

Everything should be linked once for example: Morty Seinfeld is linked twice.

Everything is linked once in the lead and once in article, with the exception of red links.--Music26/11 16:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Linking#Repeated links.--Giants 27(c|s) 18:34, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Better now?--Music26/11 19:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:

References to sources:

~~I'll hold off on commenting on this, because I own the season 1 & 2 DVD so I'll check for the info there by Monday.~~ Viewed this morning, everything checks out.

Citations to reliable sources, where required:

No original research:

3. Broad in coverage?:

Major aspects:

Focused:

4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:

Fair representation without bias:

5. Reasonably stable?

No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:

Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

Image needs alt text.

Overall:

Pass or Fail:

I'll place it on hold to allow for you to make the changes and for me to verify the DVD refs.--Giants 27(c|s) 15:47, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed your comments, I had some difficulty fixing some of the issues you pointed out, I've left comments below those.--Music26/11 16:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm now passing the article, congrats!--Giants 27(c|s) 19:43, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Grammar

I'm surprised that this made the GA cut with so many run-on sentences:

"Elaine asks Isaac multiple times about what is going to happen with their apartment, Isaac eventually tells her that Jerry's cousin Jeffrey is going to live in it."

"'The Pony Remark' was the first episode in which Kramer wants to gamble, it is later established that he has a gambling addiction."

"In 'The Stakeout', Morty was portrayed by Phil Bruns, however, David and Seinfeld decided they wanted the character to be harsher...."

"Helen was portrayed by Liz Sheridan, in an early draft of the episode her name was Adele, though this did not match her name from 'The Stakeout'."

"David Fresco guest starred in the episode as Isaac, he had some difficulty with his lines in the episode, and would sometimes burst into laughter during filming."

Other elementary grammar errors are sprinkled throughout.

I could go through and clean it up, but when I've tried that with other articles in the past, my fixes have been reverted, so it hardly seems worth the trouble. So instead I'll ask this: How are the standards for "Good Articles" so low that even this can pass? If I were teaching a high-school English composition class and received a paper like this, I would return it for a rewrite before wasting a grade on it. 76.169.152.2 (talk) 06:49, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Earl Boen

Earl Boen, who played the eulogist, performed similar roles in The Golden Girls episodes Ebbtide's Revenge and One Flew Out of the Cuckoo's Nest. Chris06 (talk) 12:37, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]