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Photos?

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This article needs pictures of its subject, preferably interior and exterior shots. Anybody? --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 13:28, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree... and there are plenty on the internet, but none of the are PD. At some point in the next few months I'll get up to Prescott and take some of my own, if no one else can find them. I searched the LOC, AZ museum of history sites. Onel5969 TT me 14:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Brunswick bar

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What's a "Brunswick bar"?Wetman (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wetman. They were well-known for their billiard tables and saloon bars in the late 1800's. I'll wl to the article about the company. Onel5969 TT me 18:30, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious Source

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Lots of the historical information in this article is sourced to Quad Cities Business News which in turn bases the entirety of its reporting on the statements of the current owner. How does the current owner come to know about the comings and goings of Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday, the murders he alleges they commited at the bar, and their favorite drinks? Also this article misrepresents hearsay as from direct sources. For example the statement:

According to historians and anthropologists, the 1996 restoration returned the saloon to "an accurate replica of the original bar as it was constructed in 1877."

is complete hearsay. It is not according to historians and anthropologist per the source listed, it is according to the current owner who is not noted as having any academic credentials. He just claims that historians said that. Klaun (talk) 16:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As a point of fact, Wyatt Earp Spent almost no time in Prescott, AZ. In or about 1864, he worked as a swamper on a freight line that ran to Prescott for a short time, and he passed through in 1879 with his family and J.H. (Doc) Holliday from Las Vegas, NM, in order to pick up his brother Virgil as they made their way to Tombstone. Holliday stayed until late August, 1880, the Earps moved on. Wyatt Earp was not known to have been involved in any face to face gunfights until 1881 at the OK Corral in Tombstone, and in fact had developed a reputation in Kansas for avoiding gun play. 67.148.96.253 (talk) 20:55, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[1][reply]

As for Holliday, he first arrived in Prescott with the Earps in the fall of 1879, then returned to Las Vegas, NM during the winter of 1879/80 until sometime between May and June of 1880. He did frequent Whiskey Row, but is not recorded as being involved in any fights while in Prescott, and left to join the Earps in Tombstone in late August of 1880. [2] The knife fight referenced in the article appears to be a misconception drawn from the movie "Tombstone", in which the killing of one Ed Bailey by Holliday is placed directly prior to his appearance in Tombstone, but that incident occurred in Fort Griffith, Texas, before Holliday moved to Las Vegas, NM. RARaible (talk) 16:07, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Wyatt Earp: The Life Behind the Legend by Casey Tefertiller, 1997
  2. ^ Doc Holliday: The Life and Legend by Gary L. Roberts, 2007