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A fact from The Osborne appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that when the Osborne Apartments building (pictured) was slated to be torn down and replaced, its residents saved it by jointly raising $500,000?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Osborne Apartments.

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Conflicting information

The two infoboxes show different 'architectural styles'. Which is correct? Vegaswikian (talk) 19:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar, people, first sentence

A comma, is wrong if all it does is separate the subject at the beginning of a sentence from the rest of the sentence. It, is not worthy of an encyclopedia.74.64.104.99 (talk) 16:53, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson[reply]

Copyright problem removed

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Osborne Apartments

~~... that the Osborne Apartments (pictured), diagonally across from Carnegie Hall, was known as "the residential Carnegie Hall"?~~ Source: NY Times 1961
- ALT1:~~... that tenants of the Osborne Apartments (pictured) held parties to celebrate the anniversaries of its completion?~~ Source: St. Petersburg Times. It may also be worth noting that one of these parties was at Carnegie Hall, but I don't know.
- ALT2:~~... that the Osborne Apartments' (pictured) co-op board withdrew an application for New York City landmark status because of concerns over unnecessary regulation?~~ Source: NY Times 1974
- ALT3:~~... that the Osborne Apartments' (pictured) lobby is reputed to be Louis Comfort Tiffany's first decorating job?~~ Source: NY Times 1966

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eastern Shore Pipeline
Comment: Part of the history was revision deleted due to copyright violations.I may come up with more hooks later.

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article was 5x expanded in the last 7 days (2972b to 22kb). Earwigs found no copyvio or close paraphrasing; only pings were from proper names and names of street intersections. Article is well-written and well-sourced. Hook image is properly licensed. I think ALT0 is the most interesting; none of the alt hooks feel especially notable (ALT1) or interesting to a general audience (ALT2 and ALT3). Ping me when you've done your QPQ and I'll pass this. Morgan695 (talk) 04:57, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Morgan695: Thanks for the review. I've done a QPQ now. Epicgenius (talk) 17:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Morgan695 (talk) 18:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but I think the ALT0 hook just sounds repetitive. It's a good image, though, so it needs a good hook. How about:
ALT0a: ~~... that the Osborne Apartments (pictured), home to artists, actors, and musicians, was known as "the residential Carnegie Hall"?~~ Yoninah (talk) 20:12, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: ALT0a sounds all right. I guess depending on who you ask, ALT0 might not actually be interesting, since it wouldn't be surprising to make an architectural comparison between two buildings across from each other (even though the Osborne is actually the older building). Epicgenius (talk) 22:40, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Epicgenius, then would you mind suggesting something more interesting? The other hooks don't have a lot of flair. Yoninah (talk) 23:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I meant, in case we used my original hook, mentioning a building across the street would not surprise many people. I think ALT0a is fine. Otherwise, how about these:

ALT5: ~~... that the developer of the Osborne Apartments (pictured) expected that its brownstone facade could attract middle-class row house residents?~~ Alpern, Andrew (1992). Luxury Apartment Houses of Manhattan: An Illustrated History. Courier Corporation. p. 29.
ALT6: ... that when the Osborne Apartments (pictured) was slated to be torn down and replaced, its residents saved it by buying out the landlord for twice her down payment? NY Times 1998

There are likely other possibilities I didn't consider, since this is a long article. Epicgenius (talk) 00:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT6 is much more hooky IMO, thanks. Pinging original reviewer Morgan695 to review ALT6. Yoninah (talk) 00:18, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine to me. Morgan695 (talk) 00:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]