Talk:The Men Who Stare at Goats (film)

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Main researcher

I think it is worth noting that although the film is based on a book by Jon Ronson, and although Jon Ronson writes the book as if he were the main investigator, the vast majority of the research, and indeed the main character in the film, Ewan McGregor's character is in fact Sergeant and not Ronson. This is confirmed by several of the key people involved. For example Pete Brusso describes here [1] how John Sergeant and not Ronson was the person who researched the original story and convinced him to speak about his experiences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Confusedmiked (talk • contribs) 21:33, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to the link John Sergeant made the intial contact, but John Sergeant and Jon Ronson met and spoke to Brusso, but the article confirms it is *RONSON* that Peter Brusso demonstrated the PREDATOR on, in the same way that it happens to Ewan McGregor in the movie therefore Ewan's character is JON RONSON. Damiantgordon (talk) 19:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Credits (specifically, the "starring" part)

It doesn't list "Goat". And yes, I am serious. No, I am not insane. 75.36.219.250 (talk) 01:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It does now. 24.233.109.128 (talk) 06:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The credits specifically list Glenn Wheaton as the real life character that Lyn is based on, so I edited that but I'm not sure how you credit the credits of the movie in a reference! You could try this article instead http://www.rense.com/general88/menwho.htm

The credits block lists Winchester Films under Studio, but this isn't the actual credit. It's Winchester Capital Partners, which appears to be an entirely different financing organization, especially since the Winchester Films entry lists it being bought out in 2005. I will correct this, okays? Kalmbach (talk) 03:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gross revenue already?

How could a movie not yet released make $10 million? Is that actually the budget? 75.37.202.145 (talk) 17:11, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't Fully Compare The Book

The movie "The Men Who Stare At Goats" does differ from the book, written by docu-writer, Jon Ronson. Both the book and the movie has their twists and turns to the reality of the world of the U.S. Military, when it comes in regards to the practical and zanny military applications that were studied and deployed. The focus in the book and the so called story focus of "Project Jedi", in the movie has it's conflicts. The fictious namechanges and limited script storyline goes against the grain of the book, but the humorous farce it presents seems to compensate for the other. The movie "The Men Who Stare At Goats" is entertaining from a Hollywood point of view, but there are noted gaps in the movie from the book orign that could be confusing to the viewer.Aedwardmoch (talk) 17:45, 15 November 2009 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 17:45, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars

Shouldn't there be some references to star wars, like the fact Mcgregor played Obi Wan and there is a character called Django after Jango Fett? 86.14.39.168 (talk) 00:33, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have sources? BOVINEBOY 2008 :) 03:13, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well yeah, because Mcgregor was Obi Wan and there was a character called Jango Fett in Starwars, there's your source 86.14.39.168 (talk) 15:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Django and Jango are two different names. If anything, the meaning of "Django" makes a lot of sense for Bridges's character, based on what he does in this film (from what I know). No Star Wars reference here, sorry. :) Erik (talk) 17:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe they are different names but they are pronounced the same, the mear fact they mention star wars, a film Mcgregor was in should be enough of a reference. Dispite wikipedia's discouraging of trivia sections 86.14.39.168 (talk) 23:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i found george clooney's character telling ewan mcgregor's character that he was a jedi was rather ironic and at least deserving of a trivia mention in the article.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.213.22 (talk) 04:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And furthermore McGregor's character not knowing what a Jedi was.193.191.216.25 (talk) 09:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But, according to Jon Ronson, the author of the book, it wasn't intentional (at least at first?) Evets70 (talk) 02:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slapstick?

I am not sure that this is a good term here ... anyone backing this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.168.62.246 (talk) 02:56, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right. The movie is dead serious and as noted in the beginning, "more of this is true than you would believe". It comes under the disguise of comedy, but "slapstick", whoever was remote-controlled to write it, is simply a mind trick of the dark side to dismiss the movie as nonsense, which it is not. 216.184.116.83 (talk) 00:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

genre debates are most of the time unequally. to me the film appears as a trajigcomedy and is so well made, that it should be taken serously.for political statements this format is one of the best, because enlightning laughter helps through serious conflict. real arguments are dealt in the bgrd! --Raskollnika (talk) 07:53, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Predator Weapon

The link to the predator weapon in this article is wrong. It links to the predator drone, when in fact the predator used in the film is the product described here: http://www.pdws.biz/About.html with no relation to the predator drone.

Perhaps someone who can edit this page can fix this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.11.64 (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

framing

the products real relation to irak war means to me the desert GOBI is a new american state.if the training behaviour is feeded by mental weapons the nation's aims are questioned humoresque... dialectical coordinates missing;is quite normal for war aggression .

a good democratic statement lately.--Raskollnika (talk) 08:01, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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