Talk:The Last Dangerous Visions

	Novels portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by Short story task force.

Citation needed?

There is a [citation needed] tag after the assertion that many of the authors of stories submitted to TLDV have died. However, the list of stories and authors itself is tagged to indicate which are dead. Is there any reason to retain the [citation needed] tag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revanneosl (talk • contribs) 16:04, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No. But the macabre signposting needs to be updated regularly. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:7D50:A0D:4115:74EE (talk) 09:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Claim of this as a "Legend" for not being published

DragonflySixtyseven deleted the sentence "It has become something of a legend in science fiction as the genre's most famous unpublished book.", presumably because it's been languishing with a "citation needed" flag since April 2012. I reverted that change and added two book references, each of which specifically use the word "legend" to describe this status. One can verify this by searching within those books via books.google.com. Chaveyd (talk) 12:48, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely, and the refs are good enough. DS (talk) 12:53, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Add date died?

I had to keep clicking over to find out when an author marked deceased ( † ) passed away. I'd like to add "(d.1987)" (or whatever). However, I admit it would be a distraction from the word counts, which already seem bizarre and out of place in such a listing (I kept expecting them to be years, and then I'd see 10000, lol.) (Maybe the word counts should be listed next to the story title, before getting to the author's name?)

It just felt kind of relevant to show how many years an author waited. I like the second section of "what got published" but I'd kinda like too see that starred/marked off in the main list, too.

Idk if I really want to spend the time, especially if someone hates the idea and decides to revert, lol. So I thought I'd ask here first. Please comment! Tkech (talk) 21:50, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"one last, significant work by Harlan which has never been published" which "ties directly into the reason why The Last Dangerous Visions has taken so long to come to light."

That would have to be significant beyond my ability to imagine... "so long" is half a century, of which most was spent by HE demonstrably bearing false witness to the work's completion. Is anybody able to adduce an explanation that is both sober and true? 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:38CD:CD06:5A6B:DFA3 (talk) 15:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Straczinsky seems to be channeling the late great man. It is with the printers! Any time soon now! Humble boasting about the Herculean task that was completed only minutes ago, how costs where paid heroically out of his own pocket, and of course there was a reason for all this, a reason only a selected few know about (certainly not that sourpuss Priest), a reason that will be revealed in due course of time... soon. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:7D50:A0D:4115:74EE (talk) 09:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Phil Dick satire of the DV vision

Dick was of course included in the first DV, so it is not sour grapes when he lampoons the sort of thing HE was pushing his authors for as follows:

In a hydrogen war ravaged society the nubile young women go down to a futuristic zoo and have sexual intercourse with various deformed and non-human life forms in the cages. In this particular account a woman who has been patched together out of the damaged bodies of several women has intercourse with an alien female, there in the cage, and later on the woman, by means of futuristic science, conceives. The infant is born, and she and the female in the cage fight over it to see who gets it. The human young woman wins, and promptly eats the offspring, hair, teeth, toes and all. Just after she has finished she discovers that the offspring is God.

This sort of hysterical throwing together of all that might give offence is now just pop culture as usual; the above reads like an episode of Farzar. One might reflect that Heinlein did it earlier and better (e.g. The unpleasant profession... All you zombies etc.). 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:7D50:A0D:4115:74EE (talk) 09:36, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is now published, past tense

Because my copy, ordered from Bookshop.org, arrived USPS today, September 25, 2024, but can't exactly use that as a citation. But there ya go, personal citation on talk page. 68.52.185.132 (talk) 20:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Straczynski says on Twitter, "B&N has been shipping Last Dangerous Visions early, but with a few exceptions not generally available anywhere else until the official pub date." I'm fine if someone wants to update the article, but for myself I don't think it's worth the trouble. Dan Bloch (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]