Talk:The Great Father

SYNOPSIS

The movie is an action thriller and revolves around the bond between a father and daughter played by Mammootty and Baby Anikha. Dark.knight0067 (talk) 10:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/here-goes-the-great-father-first-day-collection-report/articleshow/57936795.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Light.night123 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2017

TheSuperWolf (talk) 22:34, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

there has been an updated amount for box office.11.34 core 3 days.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:15, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Please update collections as fastest 20 cr in Mollywood Shihabmukkattil (talk) 16:34, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

@Shihabmukkattil: New requests belong at the bottom of the talk page, and requests without references don't typically get addressed. The data has been updated, but please bring a reliable source next time. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:01, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Why is the Boxoffice Collections taken Off. Selfish Guys. Coolarian2004 (talk) 04:36, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@Coolarian2004: Not sure who you're describing as selfish or why, but you should stick to discussing specific issues, not commenting on other editors. It's mandatory, actually. See WP:NPA. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:45, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

The great father movie box office collection

http://www.kboupdates.com/2017/04/here-is-the-worldwide-gross-of-the-great-father/

The information shared on the Wikipedia page of the great father movie is not officially confirmed. It says the movie collected over 10 crore rupee in two days. Which is incorrect and also no official announcement has came out. Kindly remove any incorrect information updated on the page which spoils Wikipedia reputation. Thank you. Santhoshkumarpr01 (talk) 04:06, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

 Done - I removed most of this content here. But you should beware of absolutes like "officially confirmed" because Indian film financials are full of lies, and the lies start at the "official" sources like directors/producers, etc and filter across the media. We also don't use the claims made by primary sources (like directors, actors, producers, etc) as they would all have a reason to inflate the data. All data about Indian film financials should be taken with a grain of salt. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:33, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2017

Permission to update the box office collections.It is 20.00 crore in the first 4 days. ref:http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/the-great-father-box-office-collection-mammootty-prithviraj/1/920064.html Jasi1999 (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Already done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:59, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2017

Hi,

Please update this film becomes fastest Malayalam film to rake in Rs 20 cr

Sources

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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/the-great-father-box-office-collection-mammootty-prithviraj/1/920064.html http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mammootty-reveals-great-father-fastest-malayalam-movie-cross-rs-20-crore-figure-exaggerated-721917 Sagar.kottappuram777 (talk) 10:58, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Unclear why this is worth changing. 20 crore seems like a totally arbitrary milestone. Just because the trades report some new "record" doesn't mean that an encyclopedia needs to repeat the information. Everything is a record if you establish the right goalposts. "Fastest film to gross 7.28 crore!" Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:20, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Box office report is not accurate

The box office report is on hold due to the case given by MFC the actual box office report is under investigation by box office trackers. So please remove the collection report or add the informations above Darshittk (talk) 17:07, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

3.50 cr Jithin nath (talk) 04:05, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Jithin nath (talk) .Please dont spread false new..MFC is a FB Page and they just put a post against this movie...there is no complaint as you mentioned.If yes,please provide necessary proof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagar.kottappuram777 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

It is proved. Just check the collection in various tracked centres. Producer's claim is highly exaggerated and contrary to what reliable trade sources reported. 2405:204:D203:4120:6C0D:8946:EBF:D604 (talk) 17:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2017

Please remove the update made by RK001 as the source provided is mobile twitter which is not considered as genuine. Sagar.kottappuram777 (talk) 04:21, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Done Sakuura Cartelet ^Talk 01:52, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Gross numbers

@Cyphoidbomb:I think it would be better to leave out collection figures for the movie, as almost all the sources quoted mention primary sources as their source for the numbers.

• The earlier approved source for a gross of 25.26/20 crores ([1]) says it derived its numbers based on Mammooty's Facebook post.
• The other figure of 4.31 crores mentioned as the first day gross in the beginning is also sourced from another Facebook post by producer Prithviraj Sukumaran as can be evidenced from a reading of the sources ([2] and [3]).
• Other reliable sources have also questioned the veracity of the numbers and rubbished the claims as possible propaganda ([4] and [5]).

Jupitus Smart 05:38, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

@Anupmenon0007: As was explained to you here, we don't use primary sources for controversial claims about a film's gross. So it's unclear why in this edit you would force the disputed content in. You need to discuss this with Jupitus. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:04, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2017

HERE IS THE COLLECTION DETAILS OF THE MOVIE

Kerala Gross -27.02 cr (17 Days) Rest Of India -7.83 cr (16 Days) GCC -11.01 cr -(3 Days) TOTAL WORLDWIDE COLLECTION – 45.86 CRORE http://www.kboupdates.com/2017/04/here-is-the-worldwide-gross-of-the-great-father/ ANSIF (talk) 06:37, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I've never heard of kboupdates.com. Who's behind it? Who's the chief editor? What makes them authorities in the field of Indian film finances? If you can't answer these questions, or if you can't substantiate that this site has an established reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, then there's no reason why we'd care what the site has to say. Anyone can start a website and proclaim himself an expert on any subject. Please see WP:UGC for our guidelines on blogs, and WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for a rough list of the kinds of sources we do and don't find appropriate for inclusion in Indian film articles. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2017

Evernoonshow (talk) 18:32, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — IVORK _Discuss 21:53, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

New comment by Tousifmt

Please update world wide box office collection of this movie to 50 crores(est). Tousifmt (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

References

@Tousifmt:  Not done See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for examples of sources that are and are not reliable. Facebook posts should not be used to support financial data. Also, new comments belong at the bottom of the page in a new section. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:23, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2017

The last sentence in the lead "The film was released in 202 screens, 958 shows (including late night shows)" should be changed to "The film was released on 30 March 2017". The show count is revealed by the producer himself, making it a primary source. Also "(including late night shows)" is unsourced. After all, what is its relevance in the lead. 112.133.248.3 (talk) 08:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Done here. The content is additionally problematic because the content was copied verbatim from the source, which would normally be considered a violation of integrity. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2017

Please update world wide box office collection of this movie to 50 crores(est).

http://www.manoramanews.com/news/entertainment/2017/04/23/mammootty-move-to-50-crore-club.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagar.kottappuram777 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

I can't read Malayalam and Google Translate doesn't help me much. According to Jupitus Smart at Talk:List of highest-grossing Indian films, the 50 crore claim in this article seems to be coming from the producers. Is that correct? If so, then we should not update based on that figure, as the producers constitute a primary source. We need figures that have been independently verified. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2017

I would like to add a plot for this movie Muhammed.suhail (talk) 09:23, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — IVORK _Discuss 11:08, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@Muhammed.suhail: add it here if you cannot add it to the page yet. We can then have it edited and added to the page. Jupitus Smart 14:01, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2017

The film collected ₹4.31 crore (US$520,000) at Kerala box offices on its first day of release, breaking the record for the greatest first day collections of a Malayalam film previously held by Pulimurugan. Ajithrajan18 (talk) 06:15, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

• Done. Thank you for the good suggestion, Ajithrajan18!—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 06:30, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Exaggerated collection by producer. Original collection is just 3.50 crore per trade sources.2405:204:D203:4120:6C0D:8946:EBF:D604 (talk) 17:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

New comment from Minukurian

This movie collercted 60 crore gross from and kerala and worldwide markET ACCORDING TO MOVIE TRADYLSTS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minukurian (talk • contribs) 11:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

@Minukurian: I've moved your comment to the bottom of the talk page where new comments belong, because it wasn't clear why you were responding to a comment thread from April. Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~ You can do this by typing, or you can click the signature button in your edit window. To address your comment, you will need to provide references if you want the financial data to be updated. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for a rough list of sources that are generally considered reliable and unreliable. Note that any blogs or faceless websites will be disregarded, and we do not use primary sources (claims made by producers/directors/actors/distributors) as these are typically inflated and cannot be trusted. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:31, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2017

Release section, this film is not the biggest release in Malayalam. Pulimurugan was released in 214 screens. Also it is 202 "screens", not theatres. The TOI source is wrong. Refer the theatre list ads of both films. Or here are some other sources [6], [7], [8]. Also the entire box office sections is cited with primary sources and other sources based on it. 103.15.255.246 (talk) 13:12, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Partly done: I've removed the box office section here, as yes, it is built entirely on claims made by people who have every reason to inflate figures. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:21, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2017

Faizypanamkavil (talk) 11:51, 17 June 2017 (UTC) As per my knowledge the first day collection of Great father is 3.57 Crore not 4.31 crore if you can check the following link https://www.topmovierankings.com/blogs/highest-first-day-collections-in-malayalam-industry) and this would be the correct one because the screens are very less while comparing with Kabaali and Pulimurugan and also as of date it is just reaching 50 Crore.

Not done: Please see the Indian cinema task force about box office figures, particularly: ... all Indian film financial details are based on trade estimates and should not be taken as gospel. There is significant corruption surrounding these financial details... No reliable source provided. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:14, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Sara

change ((Sara)) to Sarah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:541:4304:e6b0:218:8bff:fe74:fe4f (talk • contribs)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:45, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

50 crore

Its colle tion above 50 rors Nabhan nbn (talk) 05:34, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

LOL. From where, did it released in Mars ? It has not even crossed 35 crore worldwide. Check the collection in various tracked centres and compare with other film's which have actually grossed 50 crore. Then you'll know the shameless exaggeration. 2405:204:D203:4120:6C0D:8946:EBF:D604 (talk) 17:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Is the producer and agust cinema's official confirm film has grossed 50cr and it publish several news and Facebook official pages and celebrities shared and tracked centers are share the official post JithuQ123 (talk) 07:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2021

JithuQ123 (talk) 07:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Please accepted my request

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. AngryHarpy‍^talk 08:35, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2021

Flying phoenix36 (talk) 07:58, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Box office- 50 crore Proof- https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/mammoottys-great-father-hits-century-64874

Declined. Please make a clear request, in the form of "Change X to Y". Ferkjl (talk) 08:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2022

92.96.162.138 (talk) 14:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Please give me permission to edit 🙏

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Cannolis (talk) 14:25, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2024

Remove the genre "neo-noir" from the lead, as it is an unsourced WP:OR. 117.230.80.86 (talk) 12:27, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done The cited source lists the genres as "drama", "crime", and "thriller", no mention of neo-noir. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 14:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)