Talk:The Fuccons
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A Cinema Review: Wake Up and Smell the Plastor (By Yama Thi Khuu)
[edit]Released in Japan as a DVD set during 2003, this series was first viewed by Japanese as a late-night television show during 2002. The creation of Yoshimasa Ishibashi, whom won many awards internationally for this brain-child, contains a synopsis in which an American family moves to Japan and faces the everyday challenges of living as foriegners in this unfamiliar country. It is expressed by Tokyo venders online and even by American marketing as "Fashionably hip and gut-splitting funny, the Fuccon Family and their circle of friends and acquaintances won't fail to entertain. Once you see The Fuccon Family, you'll love them."
HOWEVER, the characters of this American family are mindless mannequins whom waste their life gawking at random objects and laughing for no reason at all. Their existence is devoid of any critical thinking, the wife permanant laughing at nothing-- and the husband grinning, stupidly. The child, having hardly a choice under their role-modeling, mimicks their idiot behavior. Although this has been mentioned as a "cult classic" I have not seen any explicit writings online confronting the political statements being made within this film. Whether Yoshimasa was intentional in his expression of western society and American anti-intellectualism, he certainly portrayed a very important issue that needs to be recognized.
source: http://www.freewebs.com/yamathikhuu/lists.htm
- Sorry, but Wikipedia does not serve as a forum for personal reviews from its members. That falls under the category of opinion and original reasearch. I've reverted your changes. -- Dpark 00:41, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Character briefs and the restaurants
[edit]The character descriptions I've added are based only upon the first 3 DVDs released by ADV Films. Feel free to add any additional recurring characters who appeared in later episodes. Also, my understanding is the original Japanese characters have the same names as those in the English version (which makes since since most of them are American or British characters anyway). If any of the characters, however, have different Japanese names, please add this. Also, the fact there are Fuccons restaurants is a fact stated on the DVD boxes (plus I've heard about this elsewhere, too). I think a section should be added regarding this by someone more familiar with the topic. 23skidoo 21:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
New Fuccons/Oh Mikey
[edit]I just discovered that a new series of Oh Mikey episodes - longer than the ones previously aired -- were created for the series Vermilion Pleasure Night and the Fuccons also appeared in the theatrical spin-off of that show. The VPN DVD that I have includes an episode which is definitely a finale for the Fuccons saga. Does anyone have any information that can be added to this article? The info I have is too sketchy to use. 23skidoo 04:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Bernard Faucon
[edit]how is there no mention of this photographer in the article. The show is clearly based upon his work. The Bernard Faucon article mentions The Fuccons: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Bernard_Faucon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.93.83 (talk) 04:58, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- Reply to old comment, but I wanted to mention that I removed mention of Bernard Faucon because there is no reliable independent source stating that the series was inspired by his works. Anyone is free to readd the information once a source has been located. lullabying (talk) 04:08, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Commercials?
[edit]Why isn't there any mention of the TV commercials in which these characters have appeared? Boneyard90 (talk) 06:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- ... that The Fuccons originated as a series of shorts in the sketch comedy show Vermilion Pleasure Night? Source: Wired (link): "The Japanese equivalent to Adult Swim is a variety show called Vermillion Pleasure Night, and one of its standout serials is called Oh, Mikey! (English versions call it The Fuccons.)"
- ALT1:... that The Fuccons stars a cast consisting of only mannequins? Source: Wired (link): "The stars of this sitcom are entirely plastic - as in meticulously posed, injection-molded models."
- Comment: I expanded the article recently. The original creator of the article is an IP user so I'm not sure how to credit that person. This is my first time nominating an article for DYK; I've expanded articles and brought them up to Good in the past but missed out on chances to nominate them.
5x expanded by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 04:13, 23 August 2020 (UTC).
Full review to follow, but can you first confirm if a 5x expansion has been accomplished? DYKcheck claims that the article hasn't received a 5x expansion, although I suspect the fact that the pre-expansion version included unbulleted lists may have to do with it. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, this is what the article looked like (2362 characters (380 words)) before I started editing it and this is what the article looked like when I began fully expanding it. I added a "Reception" and "Production" as well as moving the episode list to List of The Fuccons episodes and writing summary/broadcast dates for it because it was getting too long on the main article. lullabying (talk) 18:16, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- I did a manual word count check using Wordcounter.net and tried tests which both included and excluded the character lists in both revisions (although for the purposes of counting I omitted the episode lists as it was supposed to be a table or bullet list), but it seems that no 5x expansion has actually been accomplished. The original revision linked here when excluding the episode and character lists had approximately 1,590 characters, and over 5,670 characters when including the character list. Meanwhile, the expanded version only goes up to over 5,660 characters when excluding the character list, and over 7,950 characters when including the character list. I'm requesting the assistance of Nikkimaria to double-check these figures (as my checking included the footnotes, which made the actual numbers higher; I mentioned lower estimates here to get around this), but as far as I can tell the article still needs some more expansion to get to the 5x requirement. The review is to follow once the expansion issues have been clarified.Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yep, sorry, not seeing a 5x expansion there. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- What about including the contents I moved to List of The Fuccons episodes, or does that not count? lullabying (talk) 00:42, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it would count if it was moved back, except for the episode summaries which I don't think would be included in the count. Pinging Nikkimaria again for a second opinion. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- No, if it was originally in this article it wouldn't count as new if it were moved back. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Noted. Lullabying Will you be able to expand the article further to meet the 5x expansion requirement? If not, the nomination will be closed as unsuccessful. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:01, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- How much further should I expand to meet the requirement? lullabying (talk) 02:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria:? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:28, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- It will need to more than double its current size. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Got it. I'll try my best. lullabying (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I've tried expanding it. lullabying (talk) 05:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- The article as it stands today is at 10254 characters (1625 words). This is about 1100 characters short of a 5x expansion. I say we let this one go through for DYK. --evrik (talk) 15:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
--evrik (talk) 15:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! I managed to expand it even more to meet the 1100 characters limit. lullabying (talk) 20:42, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
The final approval is pending Nikkimaria or another editor verifying if the 5x requirement has now been met, but the other major article requirements (close paraphrasing, citing, image licensing, etc.) have been accomplished. As this is the nominator's first nomination, no QPQ is required. I would suggest not going with ALT0 due to the other show mentioned perhaps not being that famous. My preference is for ALT1, which is cited inline and verified. As a possible alternative hook, a hook about how the series was inspired by the facial expressions in an advertisement could also be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:01, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- It's currently about 750 characters short of 5x. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:01, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: I was able to find more sources; checking for expansion now. lullabying (talk) 21:19, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- Currently about 275 short. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:13, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: Thank you! During this time I managed to find more articles about production and have added them. Please check if you have time! lullabying (talk) 01:13, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Now over 5x. Nikkimaria (talk) 11:42, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. @Narutolovehinata5: I'm fine with going with ALT1 as a hook. lullabying (talk) 22:17, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 GTG. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:07, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but the chart of episodes needs some kind of cite. Where did you find all this information? Yoninah (talk) 19:05, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Broadcast dates were cited on List of The Fuccons episodes. lullabying (talk) 19:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- I looked there and also saw no cites on the charts. Please add one or more to the chart in this article. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:25, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- I added citations to the chart but they are not displaying on the main article. lullabying (talk) 19:48, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Restoring tick for ALT1. Yoninah (talk) 20:02, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 14:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 14:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
[edit]- Add a non-free use rationale to the image.
- Runtime needs a reference (per the template).
- Other genres also need a source (per the template).
- Add a link to the episode list with the "| list_episodes =" parameter.
- "late night" → "late-night"
- Remove the commas after "Wah! Mikey Returns" and "Oh! Mikey Fever".
- "four more series, including the 2007 theatrical film Oh! Mikey Fever was released direct-to-DVD." → "four more series and the 2007 theatrical film Oh! Mikey Fever were released direct-to-DVD."
- "news of the series were" → "news of the series was"
Done except for the image; I didn't upload the original image and I will look into adding non-free use rationale later. lullabying (talk) 22:37, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Done: non-free image nationale added. lullabying (talk) 05:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Overview
[edit]- "at real-time" → "in real-time"
- "includes surreal" → "include surreal"
- "a non-continuous storylines" → "a non-continuous storyline" or "non-continuous storylines"
Characters
[edit]- "betrothe" → "betroth" or "betrothed"
- "is transfer student" → "is a transfer student"
Production
[edit]- "hair stylist" → "hairstylist"
- "late night" → "late-night"
- "in the 54th" → "at the 54th"
- Add commas after "January 24, 2004", "December 3, 2010", and "December 20, 2005".
- "Afterwards" → "Afterward"
- "at 28th Hong" → "at the 28th Hong"
- "preview to" → "preview of"
- "vols. 1-3 were released" → "vols. 1-3 was released"
Episodes and films
[edit]- Both of these sections look good.
Legacy
[edit]- Add commas after "December 20, 2007" and "December 11, 2004".
- "photo shoot" → "photoshoot"
Reception
[edit]- Add a subsection under the header titled "Critical response", and make #Awards_and_accolades a subsection under that.
- "received mixed reception" → "received a mixed reception" or "received mixed responses"
- Remove the comma after "cross-cultural commentary".
- as "wacky weird ride" → as a "wacky weird ride"
- For the awards table, add a references column with centered citations (example).
Done with the exception of adding a reference column to the awards table, as I will do so later. lullabying (talk) 23:00, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Done Reference column added. lullabying (talk) 23:01, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
References
[edit]- Citations are archived.
- Optional, but it would be helpful to readers if you linked websites.
- Which websites should I link? lullabying (talk) 05:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- In general, all of them, but my other suggestions have been addressed, so I'll be passing the article. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 12:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Progress
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