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Does anyone have a reference showing that WWE was, in fact, going to bring back the Horsemen with Flair, Anderson, Benoit and Guerrero but Austin's walkout caused that not to take place? Because while it seemed somewhat likely at the time, I hadn't actually ever heard that it was going to really happen. ekedolphin 08:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WCW should have been sued by Metallica cause they stole the name of their song and turned it into a stable.

Oh really? Wow, the Four Horsemen formed in 1986 but still managed to steal the name of a song that wouldn't come out for about five years. I always knew Ric Flair was the master of willing and dealing! Eric42 01:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Song "Four Horsemen" is off the Metallica album "Kill em All" which was released in spring '83 FYI. GarethM
Rock on, the four horsemen lived before WCW was ever born in the back of Ted Turner's mind. Also, the four horsemen is a BIBLICAL ALLUSION, it cannot be copywrited. The Hybrid Its a Cow!


I have a problem with this article. It refers to Elizabeth and Woman leaving Hogan and Savage. This is incorrect. Nancy Daus Sullivan did NOT accompany Savage nor Hogan, instead accompanying her then husband Kevin Sullivan until joining the Horsemen

Actually, Woman *did* accompany Hogan & Savage. She first appeared with them at Clash of Champions #32 on January 23, 1996. Woman turned on Savage to side with the Horsemen during a match on Nitro shortly thereafter, as she was already with them by SuperBrawl 6 on February 11. Even though she had a real-life connection to Kevin Sullivan, she was with him (in the context of the storyline) in WCW.

This may be true, but is a one-time event worth including if consensus is NOT to include Jeff Jarrett as a member of the Horsemen? Surely he had interaction with the Horesemen more than the one time Woman was an associate of Hogan & Savage. I'm not hell-bent on it, but it seems to make more sense to me NOT to include an angle that had a duration of less than, say, six months..? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.176.235 (talk) 15:20, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted *Ric Flair at WWE.com, because Ric Flair's profile has been deleted from WWE.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.208.238.229 (talk) 22:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This whole article is in kayfabe. It cannot be taken seriously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.109.5.166 (talk) 19:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Jarrett

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Is there some particular reason why Jeff Jarrett isn't listed in the Horsemen Members section? I'm pretty sure he was an official member for a short time (I even remember him having a few tag team matches with McMichael), and in fact his time with the Horsemen is mentioned earlier in the article...

    • his 'time' with the Horsemen was more of an angle than everything. it helped fuel the inner conflicts with the Horsemen. i need to rewatch the DVD, but i don't think he was ever an official Horsemen - i think they even made jokes at his expense. Khal 17:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


        • The DVD downplays Jarrett's time in the Horsemen - probably both because of TNA and because Arn Anderson doesn't like Jarrett - but I'm pretty sure he appeared on WCW tv as an official member of the Horsemen. A short-lived member, granted. They probably did make jokes at his defense - as I recall, the angle was that Flair went down to injury and tried to bring Jarrett into the Horsemen, and the rest of the guys didn't like him, but Debra kept pestering to bring him in, and eventually left McMichael for him. Jcb9 19:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


            • In reality, Jeff Jarrett was a Horseman, but his time there was forced on "The Four Horsemen". Personally, I would not list him as a Horseman.

If you dont list Jeff Jarrett I wouldnt list Paul Roma because we all know he wasnt really a horsemen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.49.133 (talk) 19:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you actually go back and watch old WCW tapes you'll see that he was a member of the group. Although he didn't get along with McMichael at times he did get along with him just fine at other times. He came out to the Horsemen music a number of times and frequently teamed with other members. He was even offered to Piper's team at the 1997 Uncensored as a member of the Horsemen from Ric Flair himself. Speaking of Flair, he literally came out on Nitro multiple times stating that he was behind Jeff Jarrett as a member of the Horsemen. Don't rely on the revisionist history that WWE is all about. He wasn't merely an associated member. He was with the group for nearly a year. TheGary (talk) 23:57, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Member Timeline

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I set up a skeleton for the member timeline (click "Edit" to see it), but I'll need help from the more Wiki-savvy among you to finish it. Warzonewes (talk) 03:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Statement for review

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"One major difference between the Horsemen and other groups, particularly the nWo, was that the Horsemen were willing to lose matches on television and put other wrestlers over in order to make themselves appear vulnerable to faces like Rhodes and Sting. This made fans more willing to buy tickets to live events and order pay-per-views under the belief that they would see the Horsemen get their comeuppance." While I don't have a problem with this paragraph per se (under the "Legacy" heading - 2.5), should there be some verifiability to support it, such as ticket sales or buyrates following a major television event in a storyline? After all, one could argue that the WCW experienced a ratings spike o overtake the competition for the better part of two years following the nWo invasion as well... (without of course getting into the particulars of how beating that storyline to death ultimately killed the company, etc., etc.)

Fortune

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Is it ok to make a page for Fortune yet or should we wait to see where the feud with the ECW originals goes? --Kevmicester2000 (talk) 02:12, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Four Horsemen (professional wrestling)

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