Talk:The Etymologies (Tolkien)

The Etymologies (Tolkien) has been listed as one of the Language and literature good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: June 22, 2024. (Reviewed version).

Middle-earth Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle-earth, which aims to build an encyclopedic guide to J. R. R. Tolkien, his legendarium, and related topics. Please visit the project talk page for suggestions and ideas on how you can improve this and other articles.Middle-earthWikipedia:WikiProject Middle-earthTemplate:WikiProject Middle-earthTolkien
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
Note: Though it states in the Guide to writing better articles that generally fictional articles should be written in present tense, all Tolkien legendarium-related articles that cover in-universe material before the current action must be written in past tense. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Middle-earth/Standards for more information about this and other article standards.

GA Review

Passed. Remsense诉 11:20, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Etymologies (Tolkien)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 11:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Remsense (talk · contribs) 12:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

This one seems fun! Glad to snag one of yours that has a focus on Tolkien-as-linguist. (I know linguistics wasn't exactly its own field distinct from philology yet, but you get what I mean!) Remsense诉 12:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! As usual, probably best to keep the table for short summaries, and any longer comments in a separate list, seems to be easiest that way. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean swapping out the box above with a table? I'm happy to do so if you'd prefer that. You're also free to strike/address my points in whatever manner is most comfortable. Remsense诉 13:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, quite the opposite. Your layout now is just right. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First pass

I can be very "hands-on" as a reviewer, while not getting carried away of course—if you disagree with any of my tweaks, you're free to revert them. Naturally, anything I think is truly important will be explicated here for discussion.

Noted.

Ticking off the "first-pass criteria" (2a; 2d; 5; 6)! I always really like how you take advantage of diagrams and other graphics in your articles; I think more writers should do so, as 'twould improve many a prose-centered article.
- Thank you!

One preliminary question: what is the best style to adopt for Elvish text throughout? My instinct is to wrap them in {{tlit}}, which tags them as a transliteration of a non-English language. I am gratified to see that some of Tolkien's languages have codes in ISO 639, so we don't even need to worry about tagging them as mis for a miscellaneous language. Remsense诉 13:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, we can do that; several articles use {{lang|qya|...}} which seems to do the standard thing. Added tags.

Apologies for the delays: how do you feel about formatting the lexical roots in small caps, e.g. GAT(H)-? This is fairly common practice in linguistics literature and articles. Remsense诉 10:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Done.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.