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The Dying Swan was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
August 14, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed
March 20, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Issues I suggest for addressing prior to GA review

At the moment the "background" section is by far the longest and contains all sorts of material, beyond what i would call 'background' to this ballet. A section with such a name should contain only background material - the circumstances in which the ballet came to be created; the cultural content of ballet at that time into which this piece was introduced (for two examples). Material relating to its actual choreography; critical reviews and commentary - these should be in other sections.
For 'plot summary', I symphathise with not trying to improve on someone else's prose, but no-one is likely to support having a section that contains just a big quote. Has no-one else written about the plot and/or is there no way of improving the summary?
'Performance history' should cover more than just the first performance. Some of the material from the section "Non-traditional interpretations and adaptations" may belong here.
There should be a section on critical reception and legacy.

These are just some of the issues editors are likely to be asked to address. hamiltonstone (talk) 06:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Dying Swan/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Undertaking review

I will undertake a review here. The article appears stable, neutral and well written. There is a deletion proposal in place for one of the two images in use in the article, and this needs to be resolved.

I've removed the questioned image until the discussion is resolved. Kathyrncelestewright (talk) 15:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other points:

The entire following passage lacks a reference: "Anna Pavlova (who had just become a ballerina at the Maryinsky Theatre) asked Michel Fokine, who had also read the poem, to create a solo ballet for her for a 1905 concert being given by artists from the chorus of the Imperial Mariinsky Opera. Fokine suggested Saint-Saëns's cello solo, Le Cygne (which Fokine had been playing at home on a mandolin to a friend's piano accompaniment) as the work's musical basis and Pavlova agreed. A rehearsal was arranged and the short dance completed very quickly."
- Done. I've cited the source for this passage. Kathyrncelestewright (talk) 15:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Pavlova made the dance popular via her many tours around the world over a twenty year period and asked to be buried in the swan costume." Is there a reference for this?
- I don't recall the source for the statement but have revised it with appropriate references. Kathyrncelestewright (talk) 15:56, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the Makarova quote, the term "bourées" is used. This would not be familiar to a lay reader. Can it be given a brief explanation in square brackets within the quote?
- I've found a definition from the Merrian-Webster Online Dictionary for pas de bourree. Kathyrncelestewright (talk) 15:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The internet site citations are incomplete - publishers and retrieval dates are needed as a minimum.
- I've upgraded these citations and hope they meet with approval! Kathyrncelestewright (talk) 15:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This short article is otherwise sound. I will drop in and see how it is progressing. hamiltonstone (talk) 06:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One of the external links which is recommended for pictures of the Dying Swam being performed is now an "invite only" blog: http://gatochy.blogspot.com/2009/04/anna-pavlova-dying-swan.html Should it really be included when it can't be accessed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.139.71 (talk) 10:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1905 or 1907

What is the date of the premiere, 1905 or 1907 ? The source used (note 5, "The Dying Swan". Oxford Dictionary of Dance. Oxford University Press) give 22 December 1907, not 1905 ? --BeatrixBelibaste (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

The Dying Swan

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: Speedy delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:16, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is yet another GAR as a result of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/ItsLassieTime. User:Kathyrncelestewright, a sock of said user, wrote pretty much the whole article and I have removed the violations, but honestly this shouldn't have been a GA in the first place as over half the article was just quotations from copyrighted sources, as the banned user couldn't even bother to try writing it in their own words this time. Wizardman 16:35, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.