Talk:The Dunwich Horror

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there is a screenplay written by Richard Griffin (also wrote and directed "SEEPAGE, AKA Creature from the Hillbilly Lagoon'" and "Raving Maniacs, AKA Rave to the Grave")by the same name. It is in production to be made into a film.

I recognize that the summary here is woefully inadequete. I saw that there was no page for this, one of my favorite Lovecraft stories, and had to at least create a stub! --Writer@Large 15:25, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Regarding the Trivia statement "it is perhaps the only tale Lovecraft wrote where the heroes successfully defeat the antagonistic entity or monster of the story," what about The Case of Charles Dexter Ward? Dreams In the Witch-House also features the defeat of the main antagonist, although the protagonist is killed as well. 151.199.192.119 19:37, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had exactly the same thought regarding CDW. I suppose it might be argued that Joseph Curwen wasn't an "entity or monster", although you could make a—IMO, successful—case for his being a moral monster. Wooster (talk) 09:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also "The Shunned House"--the one with the giant elbow in the basement. I'll bet there's more if we gave it some more thought. Nareek 21:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm thinking about it, why is the death of Wilbur's brother a "surrealistic satire [sic] of the Crucifixion"? I mean, I read that claim in the notes in a Penguin collection of Lovecraft shorts, and it didn't make sense when I read it there. (And yes, I'm a Christian, so I kind of know the Crucifixion scene quite well.) Further, isn't the word "parody", not "satire"? Wooster (talk) 12:24, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see a citation of the Penguin notes--otherwise, the assertion regarding (in the article) regarding the Crucifixion seems like original research. I think it's an interesting observation, whether it's parody or a simple reference or just a coincidence (it hardly seems satirical, I agree). Silarius —Preceding comment was added at 05:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I find it hard to believe that Greenwich, Massachusetts, along with small towns of Enfield, and Prescott (all previously located in Hampshire County) and the village of Dana, aren't mentioned as inspiration for the Dunwich Horror! They were all flooded out years ago (but long after Lovecraft's stories) to form the Quabbin Reservior. Perhaps this cannot be verified in Lovecraft's letters? Although they fit the descriptions perfectly, and perhaps Lovecraft didn't want to admit as to making the rather unoriginal name switch from Greenwich to Dunwich? Its so poetically fitting that the inspiration for Dunwich should be under millions of gallons of water. When I'm at Quabbin I expect slimey fishmen to rise out of the water at any moment!!! Cuvtixo 18:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Quabbin and the Greenwich Horror (outside of Oakham)

I know this isn't a scholarly paper, but its convincing to me: From Donovan K. Loucks’ Personal Pages. http://www.getnet.com/~dloucks/personal/neo/neo0825.htm [1] ...If you’re wondering how this relates to Lovecraft, recall the plot of “The Colour Out of Space,” where a drinking water reservoir is planned for the city of Arkham. Also, the four main towns that were flooded by the Quabbin were Prescott, Enfield, Dana, and Greenwich. Some Lovecraftians believe that the names Dana and Greenwich were combined by Lovecraft into the name of the fictional town of Dunwich, although no direct evidence exists to support this. The Quabbin region also has a town to the west named Whately and another to the east named Oakham, the implications of which should be fairly obvious.

Can I cite some of this stuff from his web pages? http://www.getnet.com/~dloucks/personal/neo/ A New England Odyssey In August 1995, I went on my second Lovecraftian tour of New England. During that trip, I kept a daily travelogue and posted it both here and on the alt.horror.cthulhu newsgroup. Cuvtixo 19:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dunwich

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Dunwich

Most village names on the coast of Suffolk and Norfolk have a counterpart in Massachusetts because many settlers went from East Anglia to the New World. Dunwich fell into the sea and the bells of the churches can be heard at spring tide, according to legend. E. A. Poe's 'The City in the Sea' is possibly based on Dunwich. Poe went to school in England and visited the east coast. --Steve (talk) 17:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recall that Lovecraft used the name Dunwich because it was one of the English town names not used by settlers in New England but which did have that authentic place name air about it. I have been meaning to re-read his selected letters and will take notes if I find a ref. --Naaman Brown (talk) 18:48, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice Page

I write a few literature pages on Wikipedia and I thought this was very well researched, very well crafted. Kudos to all of the editors, nice work.

Best Regards, the Botendaddy (talk) 01:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch

"...arrive and kill the monster with the knowledge and weapons needed to kill the monster..." Good overall, but this particular phrase is a real clunker that could stand restating.

Dr. Armitage's Credentials

I'm wondering what the source is for Dr. Armitage's education? The reason that I ask is that in the game Trail of Cthulhu, Page 206, the entry for him says that he went to Cambridge, so I thought I would bring that up here. Not saying that this is correct... Just asking. Pdarley (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:58, 5 November 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Incorrect Reference?

The link to the author of “The Thing in the Woods”, Harper Williams, takes you to a biography of a basket-ball player; it could be that he is also an author, but it isn’t in the information, and he’d appear to be a bit young, so my guess is that the link is in fact incorrect, although I can’t be certain… Also, I can’t find an article on an author of that name on Wikipedia to re-link to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jock123 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The Dunwich Horror and other Weird Tales

The Sandy Petersen article redlinks The Dunwich Horror and other Weird Tales (which was presumably some compilation of Lovecraft's work, with The Dunwich Horror as its headline item). I doubt that specific anthology is worthy of an article of its own, so we should resolve that redlink to some existing article. Should it link here? -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 09:07, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Dunwich (Lovecraft)

What makes this fictional location notable? All I see are primary sources and few passing mentions, all at WP:PLOT level. I thought about AfD, but I think we could merge and redirect it to here instead of deletion. Thoughts? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Lovecraft Country I cannot find any reliable sources that discuss Dunwich as an independent location. The vast majority of sources discuss either the story or the wider concept of Lovecraftian New England. Furthermore, the Lovecraft Annual only has one article that discusses Dunwich as a location. Of course, that source would be better used elsewhere. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 00:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus: What is your response? ―Susmuffin ^Talk 05:03, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Susmuffin: So you suggest merging to Lovecraft Country instead of here? It is an option, I am just a bit concerned whether Lovecraft Country is notable as a stand-alone topic. It is certainly "cool" but currently very undersourced and in-universe... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:12, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The main article on H. P. Lovecraft cites Will Murray's article about the subject. Murray later wrote a follow-up article. When looking for additional sources, I found that Dunwich has a brief entry in An H. P. Lovecraft Encyclopedia. The other cities appear to have their own sections. I also found an article on Kingsport. Furthermore, the Kingsport article cites another article titled "Arkham Country: In Rescue of the Lost Searchers". I think that there is enough content to justify an article on the settings of Lovecraft's stories. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 04:36, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus: I found another article. It is on pages 19–29. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 14:09, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Susmuffin: I would like for us to keep a general article on Lovercraft setting as well, but for the discussion here, do we have the consensus on what to merge where? Of do you think that the merge should not happen? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think a merge from Dunwich (Lovecraft) into Lovecraft Country makes sense. There are definitely some notable locations in Lovecraft's work (especially Arkham & Miskatonic University) but Dunwich isn't one of them. — Toughpigs (talk) 03:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Btw, I'll propose a merger of Innsmouth in the same vein, please consider commenting. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:47, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I support merging it with Lovecraft Country. I simply wanted to prove that the target article is notable. Furthermore, I would suggest merging everything except the popular culture and see also sections. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 09:38, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge to Lovecraft Country. --Lord Belbury (talk) 13:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 08:56, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a bad choice. It makes no reference whatsoever to the subject of this article or even its author. The subject of this article is not Wierd Tales. Can anyone explain its value in this article's infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.72.228.57 (talk) 00:12, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's the cover of the issue in which the story appeared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:57F:2380:B813:E842:43D4:4343 (talk) 12:35, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]