Talk:The Drunkard's Progress

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 20:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that The Drunkard's Progress suggests that a singular social drink leads to poverty, crime, and suicide?
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Created by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 17:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Drunkard's Progress; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article is new enough and long enough. The images are relevant and are certainly PD given their age. The article is sensibly structured and fully cited. QPQ has been done. The hook text is good. The hook citation is not given above but the hook text is cited (to 2 sources, one paywalled, one offline) in the article.

GA Review

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Reviewer: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 18:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah heck, I'll do this over the next few days hopefully! Great work, this was one I was curious about making at one point but couldn't find sources. Generalissima (talk)

Criterion #1: Well-written

I don't see any prose problems, good job! It's clear prose, and I don't see any MoS violations.

Criterion #2: Verifiable

Let me check a few citations here.

• Le Beau 2007, pp. 21–25
  • Pretty wide-swathe of pages here, but yeah, checks out the claim that Currier and Ives were a very large lithograph firm.
• Mills 1996, p. 12
  • Yep! This talks about John Warner Barber's Drunkards Progress. I would note the use of biblical verses (as described in Mills) here since it ties together the Temperance movement to period Christian revivalism (quite important for understanding its emergence).
• Brown 1975, p. 237
  • Checks out okay!

Criterion #3: Broad in its coverage

The rest is okay, but I feel the background section is a little lacking. I think it'd be a good idea to give just a couple sentences more about what the Temperance movement is and what it sought to do; it's really hard to understand this piece without a decent grasp of Temperance being initially a Christian revivalist thing seeing alcohol consumption as a disease and sin.

Criterion #4: Neutral

Yep! Good job so far.

Criterion #5: Stable

As far as I can tell.

Criterion #6: Illustrated

Image licenses check out, all being public domain.

Overall:

@Guerillero: Just needs a tiny bit of work in the background section. Really good job so far! Generalissima (talk) 17:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Dcdiehardfan kindly provided the extra context while I was sleeping. I am going to replace the PBS website with a scholarly source, double check the source-text integrity, add page numbers for the Masters and Young (2022) citation, and make the citation consistent with the others per CITEVAR. -- In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 08:15, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Rad, the new background section looks good. I'm confident this now meets the GA criteria. Generalissima (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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