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WikiProject Scouting template is inappropriate

As I tried to explain at evrik's Talk page, I see no valid reason for including this article in WikiProject Scouting. As evrik correctly (and repeatedly) points out, some of these stories were originally printed in Boys' Life, the monthly magazine of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA). However, that fine publication has over the years offered many different items of a general nature (e.g. video games, how to play chess, stamp collecting, etc.), not just issues directly relevant to Boy Scouts (such as badges to be earned, camporees, making Pinewood Derby cars, etc.).

The stories in question here and also at The Key Word and Other Mysteries are science fiction stories and have nothing whatsoever to do with scouts or scouting. Just because a story or article appears in Boys' Life doesn't make it scouting-relevant. The application of the WikiProject Scouting template is therefore inappropriate and should be removed. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:16, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree, it's such an insignificant connection that it can't justify the template. The stories have no relevance to scouting, are not about scouting or scouts, some of them just happen to have been published in the scouts' magazine and that is not enough. Richard75 (talk) 23:22, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's not insignificant. It's mentioned in the article, and was part of a larger series. I find it amusing that we're not discussing content, but a wikiproject tag on a talk page. --evrik ^(talk) 03:47, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just mentioning it in the article isn't enough. Richard75 (talk) 11:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please cite the policy that says that. --evrik ^(talk) 04:00, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would say the policy is common sense, but that's probably not good enough. The point is: the mention in the article that the stories were once printed in Boys' Life does not make it relevant to scouting, any more than the mention of stamp collecting in Boys' Life does. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your standard flies in its own face. Mention in the article should be enough. --evrik ^(talk) 23:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mention in an article about Boys' Life is not enough. It is not only insufficient, it is meaningless. Irrelevant. Of no import. Now, if it were notably mentioned in an article about scouting, then that would be a different story.

That is your personal opinion. The scouting magazine is mentioned in the article. It was part of a Boys Life science fiction series. You have yet to mention any policy. --evrik ^(talk) 01:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a misunderstanding. Asimov's stories in Boys' Life were not science fiction and not part of the Time Machine series. Darkday (talk) 07:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And evrik, please don't edit my comments. If I had wanted a bullet I would have added a bullet myself. Thanks. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You wanted to see a policy; here it is:

"The central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to Wikipedia pages in a hierarchy of categories which readers, knowing essential—defining—characteristics of a topic, can browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those characteristics."

(from Wikipedia:Categorization.)

That is clearly not the case here. Richard75 (talk) 17:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We are discussing the use of the WikiProject template. --evrik ^(talk) 21:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Again, the policy you cited was not on point. --evrik ^(talk) 16:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]