Talk:The Bloodline (professional wrestling)

Bloodline Members

I've noticed that Jey Uso was taken off of the member list and that The Usos are "former" members of the group, implying that the tag team split up. It has not been confirmed on WWE Television if Jey is still in the group, and stating that he is would just be speculation from his Instagram posts. I don't think that this is substantial confirmation? Wait until Raw or SmackDown? MikoMek (talk) 02:36, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

The Usos walked out on Reigns after Night of Champions 47.13.65.106 (talk) 03:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

The end of the bloodline 2001:8003:2468:3100:754A:1D72:1BCE:3E21 (talk) 05:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

This is premature, we don't know whether Jey might stay with Roman for a while or what kind of relationship Usos will have with Bloodline in future. We should wait for some more days. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 05:47, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

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OMG

Omg the collapse 81.98.250.230 (talk) 02:01, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Reception

We need to add a reception section to this page, especially with how repeatedly well-praised the storyline has been. JDC808 ♫ 02:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Factssss. --MikoMek (talk) 00:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

yes. I was thinking it. PWInsider has praised the storyline several times.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:42, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy's position in the Bloodline

We're having a complication where some members keep adding Jimmy back in the Bloodline based on his betrayal to Jey at SummerSlam. I haven't come across a reliable source that explicitly confirms he's back in the Bloodline nor does it explicitly state on any of WWE's official accounts that Jimmy rejoined the Bloodline. The best we can do is wait for the following SmackDown to find out where he really stands. How do we resolve this issue? TB Chigz (talk) 04:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso is back in the bloodline, it's been confirmed on Twitter. https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1688713599043129344 Summerslam2022 (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

The complication with that is even if it's from a reliable source, it doesn't explicitly confirm that he's back in the Bloodline. It only states that he's going to acknowledge the Tribal Chief, of which acknowledging the Tribal Chief and rejoining the Bloodline are two different things. We have many WWE personnel who acknowledge Roman Reigns, but are not in the Bloodline.

Besides, it's a future event that is not certain. Adding Jimmy Uso back in the Bloodline before it is officially confirmed is violating the WP:CRYSTALBALL rule, which states that Wikipedia is not a collection of presumptions, which is exactly what we're doing right now. My suggestion is unless there's a reliable source that CLEARLY confirms his return, we should not add him back in.

I think we should wait for SmackDown to see whether or not he is indeed back in the Bloodline.TB Chigz (talk) 06:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso isn't in the bloodline

Stop adding Jimmy uso as a member of the bloodline, it's not confirmed yet and the only way to get confirmation is by watching smackdown today. Summerslam2022 (talk) 22:27, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso officially not back in the Bloodline

Those who have watched the most recent episode of SmackDown, it was clearly evident that Jimmy Uso did not rejoin the Bloodline. His actions at SummerSlam had nothing to do with Roman Reigns or the Bloodline (which was seen by Reigns' reaction to the betrayal during the match). With that said, I suggest we stop adding Jimmy back in the Bloodline! TB Chigz (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Also, whoever keeps removing Sami Zayn from the timeline should stop it. He was an official honorary member, so there's no reason to exclude him from the stable's timeline. TB Chigz (talk) 02:14, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Jey Uso quits WWE

On August 11, 2023 Friday Night Smackdown, Jey quits WWE after superkicking Jimmy.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:240E:9800:5C29:610D:1EC3:F629 (talk) 03:32, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Jey Uso is back

Jey Uso is back at payback 2023 he newest member on raw roster, while splitting on Jimmy on Smackdown.2001:8003:240E:9800:F4C1:5CA4:A979:71AA (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso Officially Back in the bloodline

Jimmy Uso is officially back in the bloodline and assaulting John Cena and AJ Styles on Friday 22, September 2023 episode of Smackdown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.43.219.54 (talk) 06:48, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The Rock isn't officially in the Bloodline

The Rock isn't officially in the Bloodline, just because he slapped Cody Rhodes it doesn't mean he's apart of it. TheProWrestlingFanatic (talk) 12:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Agree, unless there's a source that explicitly states otherwise. I've requested page protection. — Czello ^(music) 12:41, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Agree it's like Iyo Sky joining the Kabuki Warriors because she turned on Bayley along with Asuka and Kairi Sane last week. She isn't officially in the Kabuki Warriors unless there's a source that explicitly states otherwise as well. Pikachu3408 (talk) 18:26, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

He's clearly in it. He's literally tagging "Bloodline" on his instagram posts and telling Cody that he and Roman Reigns are coming for him together. 108.250.209.38 (talk) 21:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Roman just said the rock is a member of the bloodline on smackdown. 2600:100B:B010:11D:39AA:49C9:A152:DD99 (talk) 02:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Tama Tonga joins The Bloodline and Jimmy Uso was kicked out of The Bloodline

Tama Tonga makes his debut on Smackdown as April 12, 2024, attacking Jimmy Uso, Turning Tonga into Heel in the process. Solo Sikoa betrayed Jimmy Uso with a stabbing Samoan Spkies. Sikoa with a Brutal running hip attack on Jimmy into the steel chair and injured Jimmy. Turning Jimmy face in the process and Jimmy was kicked out of The Bloodline. Tonga joins The Bloodline.

Incorrect information

The personnel and timeline information is incorrect. Paul Heyman is just the manager not the Tribal Chief. Roman is the Tribal Chief Kelran79 (talk) 04:17, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The current status of The Bloodline...

So, as of this past Friday's SmackDown, it would seem the group is now down to just Solo Sikoa, Tama Tonga, & Paul Heyman (PROOF: WWE Draft 2024 results, round 3: The Bloodline stays on SmackDown; Note: the graphic the article uses shows Sikoa, Tonga, & Heyman referred to as The Bloodline). Roman Reigns is pretty much out indefinitely, and The Rock has gone back to filming whatever movie he's doing right now.

So, should the article be updated to reflect the current slimmed-down version of the group? ClarkKentWannabe (talk) 23:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Jacob Fatu joins The Bloodline

On Friday Night Smackdown on June 21, 2024, Jacob Fatu makes his WWE Debut and attacked Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton and Kevin Owens. Jacob attacked Owens on Samoan Drop onto the steel steps. Jacob attacked Orton with a Spear through the barricade. Jacob attacked Cody with a spine first on Ring Apron. Jacob with a Samoan Splash on Cody through the announce table. Turning Jacob into a heel in the process. Jacob Fatu joins The Bloodline. The New Bloodline has completed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:2419:B200:99F0:951F:DD1B:4F5E (talk) 02:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Paul Heyman as former member

Paul heyman was just kicked out of the ‘New Bloodline’, but he is still under a member. But the reason he still is is because he’s a member of the old one, not the new one, but if that’s that case then Jimmy uso should still be a ‘member’.

Haku's kids

Tama Tonga is his adoptive son. Hikuleo and Tanga Loa are his blood sons. 2603:9001:29F0:71B0:2445:21F5:1A7E:496E (talk) 15:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

The Rock

The Rock hasn't appeared for months and it's uncertain when he will. There's also uncertainly regarding his status as Bloodline member, we don't know how it will be upon his return. I suggest either removing him as a current member or describing him as a part-time member. I think the latter solution would be better to avoid confusion. Linkin Prankster (talk) 11:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

I think until we see him again, which we can't guarantee will happen (WP:CRYSTAL), we can't reasonably call him part-time, either. I've not seen any sources which support that wording, and we can only know if he's still a member (part-time or otherwise) if he actually returns and is still associated with them.

Consequently, I think we should say his membership of the Bloodline ended the night after WrestleMania. We can always add him back if he returns and things become more clear. — Czello ^(music) 11:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

He is literally a part-time wrestler. Linkin Prankster (talk) 12:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

That doesn't mean he's a part-time member of the Bloodline, still. Ultimately we don't know if he is still a member until he shows up again (which, again, may or may not happen). — Czello ^(music) 14:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Bloodline Factions.

I think we need to make the former members of the Bloodline like Reigns, Jimmy Uso, Heyman to also be a member of the bloodline, not “former”. Just separate them into two factions? One for Reigns’ stable and one for Sikoa’s. What do you all think? The Man Without Fear ^🦇 13:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely not. First off, such claims there are two Bloodlines are false. WWE do not acknowledge there being two Bloodlines. Secondly, It would be WP:OR to include as such, and I had to remove unsourced information saying the two groups had split into two when there is zero indication on WWE programming that is the case. Unless it actually takes place on TV it should not ever be included. Lemonademan22 (talk) 22:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Except it literally IS taking place on TV..... Old Bloodline vs New Bloodline is the War Games match they have been building to since August. JakeDHS07 (talk) 03:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

For proof they are even calling them as such now officially

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1855083479920148979 JakeDHS07 (talk) 03:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

This is not a reliable source. Lemonademan22 (talk) 12:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Their official Twitter account? Lmfaoooooo JakeDHS07 (talk) 21:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

You don't seem to know what a reliable source is. Why don't you read Wikipedia:Reliable sources before trying to crack a few jokes? Lemonademan22 (talk) 11:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

This also a good read if you want to know what a reliable source is, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources. Lemonademan22 (talk) 11:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

That does not mean we need to create an entirely new article on the "Old Bloodline". It needs to be thoroughly sourced. Just because they are building a feud does not mean there are two seperate factions. Again, there is no evidence on WWE programming of this occuring. At Crown Jewel Roman Reigns and The Usos were not referred to as the "Old Bloodline", they were only called "Roman Reigns and The Usos". Lemonademan22 (talk) 12:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

While I agree to all the points given here (that Roman’s not YET officially recognized faction again), We don’t really need to create a new article for the old Bloodline, I do not know how you come up with that. I am suggesting that we need to specify to this article that there are two Bloodline factions happening today, especially now that WWE.com released an official merch for the OG Bloodline.

https://shop.wwe.com/en/the-bloodline/o-3422099226+t-7856229507+z-9-1875929703?_s=tw-sclmp-WWEShop&utm_campaign=WWEShop-US-EN-ORG-WWE-WWE_Bloodline_OG_TW_WWE_WWE_Bloodline_OG_&utm_content=E=PRODUCT-WWEWWE_Bloodline_OG_&utm_term=S=ORG%7CD=WWEShop%7CL=WWE%7CT=WWE_WWE_Bloodline_OG_%7CA=BothGenders%7CC=US%7CB=BidCap%7CH=Owned%7CG=EN&utm_medium=social The Man Without Fear ^🦇 17:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

No of course we don't need to create a new article. I was merely using hyperbole to get my point across. However, I still stand by we shouldn't. There is no two incarnations of The Bloodline, a t-shirt being sold is not a reliable source, WWE still have not said on programming that Reigns' "OG Bloodline" (which is just a group of former members) is a different incarnation. And even if they did we should not put two incarnations of The Bloodline in this article as it will quickly descend into chaos and is very much up to every user's interpretation. Especially when this article had to be extended confirmed protected so disruptive editing could stop as it was rampant.

In short, it's not confirmed at the moment, they are just a bunch of ex-Bloodine members, not going by the name "The OG Bloodline", just ex-members, and even if that was the case I still think not as this article would descend into chaos as it is up to the individual's interpretation which is not how which isn't how Wikipedia is meant to operate. So that is my reasoning as to why I think it is a bad idea and why it should not happen. Lemonademan22 (talk) 17:44, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

In fact, the article exists. The OG Bloodline (professional wrestling) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

It's only got one source in the ENTIRE page which is 10,000 bytes. It only proves my point. On top of that only IP accounts and autoconfirmed editors are editing it. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

This is an article I feel should not exist and should be merged into this article. — Czello ^(music) 00:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree. But I don't think they should be featured in the "members" section. Since, well, they aren't members of the actual Bloodline. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

While at this moment, I actually agree with you. I made this comment earlier and it seems that today they are not YET officially recognized factions. But I think eventually they will become a faction separate to Solo’s. Or Solo’s will eventually disband and Roman’s will take over again. The Man Without Fear ^🦇 10:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Whatever happens it will need to happen first before it can be added. Lemonademan22 (talk) 11:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Not only that. Commentary by Michael Cole and some sources (Sean Ross Sapp, SI) affirms that such as this one from SI.com. Correct me if i'm wrong. Modus touch (talk) 15:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

If it's confirmed there is an alternate Bloodline faction, I recommend we don't create a new article for it and instead incorporate it into here. There is precedent for this already: for example, we never created a separate article for nWo Wolfpac, and instead we distinguish them within the article.

Similarly, DX briefly split into two versions in 1999, but we still keep it as one article (albeit that was far shorter and less notable than Wolfpac).

I'm also reminded of a time, long ago on Wikipedia, when the black metal band Gorgoroth had a dispute over who owned the rights to the name. The band split into two – essentially there were two Gorgoroths for a time. We didn't create a separate article for either, instead we represented both in the same article. This is how we presented the membership; two versions of the same band. Of course, the big difference here is that this was a real-life thing and the Bloodline split is a storyline, but I think this is the best way to go about it.

If after this "civil war" is over there are clearly two different factions then we could create a separate article; but while they're both claming to be the Bloodline we should keep it all in one place. — Czello ^(music) 18:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I think this is the most sensible option after all. Why create two seperate articles on one faction? If there is two seperate incarnations, which there isn't at the moment, but if it is later confirmed by WWE and can be backed up with reliable sources then we can put them in the same article. However, even if they are called "The OG Bloodline", which they are not on TV at the moment, but if they are I still think there should be caution as to wether we do list them as seperate. Lemonademan22 (talk) 16:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Last episode of Smackdown like 10 hours ago they are now called the OG Bloodline. And I agree with all things said here and that is why I made this thread, we do not need to create a new article but just have two separate factions here. The Man Without Fear ^🦇 13:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

PS Someone already made changes to the members section of this article but did not bother editing the other sections here. If we all agree that their edit in the section is accepted then I guess we should clean the whole article especially the intro sections. The Man Without Fear ^🦇 13:02, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

They made changes and did not notify anybody. The changes were Unsourced. I have removed them. Lemonademan22 (talk) 15:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I still disagree with putting two seperate factions here. It has never been done on any article before and I think it's also a case of WP:FANCRUFT which isn't allowed. Lemonademan22 (talk) 15:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

There is one with the Hart Foundation if you search it on Wiki, yes I know there are more than 2 on there. 4.96.100.93 (talk) 05:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

That is very different. Those are different incarnations in different time periods with sporadically different people and they are well sourced. This isn't, "The OG Bloodline" is comprised of ex-Bloodline members from the same time period as the actual Bloodline and has no evidence of existing, thus not being well sourced. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:53, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Date of creation of the faction

The date of creation of the faction used on the page is july 9th 2021, the date were Roman and both Usos were officially on the same page as heels. But Jey, Roman and Paul Heyman were already forming "The Bloodline" before that, weren't they ? And what about their short stint as a trio in late 2015 ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by AceBi-Ly (talk • contribs) 01:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

The Bloodline officially formed on the date stated in the article. As for Roman and The Usos performing as a trio years previously, they were just a trio, not a group or faction, just a nameless trio that didn't last long. Lemonademan22 (talk) 22:26, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Bronson Reed

It's looking like Bronson Reed joined the bloodline since at the end of the segment on smackdown he put the ones up and on the SmackDown lowdown bloodline segment it was just the bloodline and not the bloodline and Bronson Reed so he should be added to the members list at the very least as an associate Cheesebanana432 (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

We don't do associates in stable articles. To add him as a member we'll need a reliable source that explicitly calls him one. More likely is that he's just joining them for the Survivor Series match. — Czello ^(music) 20:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Please, don't start again wth the associate stuff... --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

This article is extended confirmed protected for a reason. Lemonademan22 (talk) 13:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Tonight's SmackDown kicked off and the ring announcer announced Bronson alongside the entire Bloodline name-by-name, and introduced them all together AS the Bloodline. So, is that a confirmation? HygorHubner (talk) 01:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

No that is still WP:OR, we need a reliable source stating that Reed is a member of The Bloodline. Lemonademan22 (talk) 12:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

At this point, we should learn the alliances relatives to survivor series, war games, multi tag matches are just short alliances. We had the same issue last year with Drew McIntyre as member of Judgment Day or two years ago with Ripley and Nikki Cross as part of Damage Control. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:22, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Exactly. I highly doubt Reed will have any affiliation with The Bloodline past Survivor Series: War Games. Lemonademan22 (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

No info on OG Bloodline

Michel Cole is using the name of OG Bloodline to denote the group headed by the OTC Roman Reigns. Yet this article does not mention that at all. Can someone edit the article? 2601:14D:4F83:9010:DA75:5B84:587B:734F (talk) 22:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

No. Just because it is being used on TV doesn't mean it is a seperate group. The "OG Bloodline" is only made up of ex-Bloodline members. We need a reliable source before adding it. Lemonademan22 (talk) 23:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Sounds more like it's a nickname an announcer is using for the benefit of the audience, rather than it being an official name of any kind. I'd like to see them introduced as this or called it on a match card before we start using it. — Czello ^(music) 06:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

It reminds me of when the WCW announcers called the WCW World Heavyweight Championship the "NWO Heavyweight Championship". It was never an official name for the title, it was only referred to as that by fans and the announcers. Lemonademan22 (talk) 17:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)