Talk:Teresa Lewis/Archive 1
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Birthdate
If anyone have the birthdate information in full of Teresa Lewis then add it to the article please.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Matthew Shallenberger
Matthew Shallenberger committed suicide in prison in 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.8.12 (talk) 00:51, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Execution
Does anyone know at which time today Teresa Lewis will be executed? By that I mean US time.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:29, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Lewis, who was given a lethal injection, was pronounced dead at 9:13 p.m. Eastern Time. (64.252.1.135 (talk) 03:57, 24 September 2010 (UTC))
7,300 appeals
I believe that you are misreading sources to reach implausible conclusions in the Teresa Lewis article. A source which says that 7,300 people had contacted the Governor to ask him to commute her sentence does not support a claim that her lawyers filed appeals on 7,300 times in court. Using a definition of "appeal" from the Cornell Law School does not mean that Fox News used the word the same way that Cornell Law School used the word. Racepacket (talk) 19:19, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- Excuse me, I did not add any such material. It was added here [1] by someone else. Please check facts next time. WWGB (talk) 02:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- A news story called a comment from the public to request a switch to life imprisonment an "appeal" (perhaps to the Governor's sense of fairness). However, you conflated that in the same sentence as three requests for stay to the U.S. Supreme Court and added a footnote to the www.law.cornell.edu website where the word "appeal" is redefined in a way not relevant to the news story's use of the word. This is OR at best. Racepacket (talk) 13:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Last meal
Information about Lewis' last meal from two different editors,[2] including myself,[3] has been deleted by User:WWGB as "unencyclopedic". It may be worth discussing here the merits of whether this information tells us something relevant about the subject of this article. KimChee (talk) 20:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Last meal is unencyclopedic trivia that serves no purpose other than to satisfy morbid curiosity. Is is no more notable than the time she took her last dump. WWGB (talk) 22:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- You are entitled to your opinion but however there is no consensus on this matter, for example John Allen Muhammads article states his last meal. And so does many other similar articles. And I do believe it is an important part of an executed persons last day alive, the last meal which is also always written about in articles concerning execution prisoners in papers etc etc. --BabbaQ (talk) 22:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- How typical that a nation that willingly snuffs out its citizenry should be fascinated by the last meal of the executed. ("We did her, but she went out with a full stomach!) You're right, there is no consensus to add such material. So what if the tabloid press reports it. Wikipedia does not operate on the principle of monkey see, monkey do. WWGB (talk) 23:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I completely agree that what time Lewis took her last dump would not be notable as I have not seen it in any reliable sources. However, her last meal request was covered by many well-established sources. Personal point of view should not be a factor here. KimChee (talk) 23:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- There are wide cultural differences within the United States. Since inmates can have any dinner of their chosing, what the prisoner selects as her ultimate "comfort food" says a lot about her cultural background. Racepacket (talk) 02:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- As there is no consensus against this matter, sourced information about the last meal (and last words) has been added back to the article. KimChee (talk) 17:57, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes as it should, I support that decision. --BabbaQ (talk) 20:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- You have incorporated it nicely into the article too. Tasteful.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes as it should, I support that decision. --BabbaQ (talk) 20:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- As there is no consensus against this matter, sourced information about the last meal (and last words) has been added back to the article. KimChee (talk) 17:57, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- There are wide cultural differences within the United States. Since inmates can have any dinner of their chosing, what the prisoner selects as her ultimate "comfort food" says a lot about her cultural background. Racepacket (talk) 02:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- I completely agree that what time Lewis took her last dump would not be notable as I have not seen it in any reliable sources. However, her last meal request was covered by many well-established sources. Personal point of view should not be a factor here. KimChee (talk) 23:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- How typical that a nation that willingly snuffs out its citizenry should be fascinated by the last meal of the executed. ("We did her, but she went out with a full stomach!) You're right, there is no consensus to add such material. So what if the tabloid press reports it. Wikipedia does not operate on the principle of monkey see, monkey do. WWGB (talk) 23:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- You are entitled to your opinion but however there is no consensus on this matter, for example John Allen Muhammads article states his last meal. And so does many other similar articles. And I do believe it is an important part of an executed persons last day alive, the last meal which is also always written about in articles concerning execution prisoners in papers etc etc. --BabbaQ (talk) 22:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
GA nomination
I have now nominated this article for GA status. I believe the article has reached GA status because it has extensive coverage of all aspects of this womans life,crime and death. It has all been incorporated nicely.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Laurent (talk) 13:44, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- Good references and well presented with templates
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- In the Murders section, it should be mentioned 1) how the murders happened 2) How did the police found out who was responsible. "Public reaction and aftermath" should be expanded as it's not clear why this case was so important. Perhaps we need more details on why some people think that sentences for women in murder cases should be different. Perhaps some quotes from some supporters will do it?
- Done. The Murders and Public reaction and aftermath sections have been substantially expanded, with source quotes where applicable, to address the above comments. The lead has also been expanded to summarize the longer article. Let us know if there are other suggestions to improve the article. KimChee (talk) 14:33, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help KimChee, I think the improvements made has been exactly what was needed for it to reach GA. Lets see what WikiLaurent has to say.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:59, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Done. The Murders and Public reaction and aftermath sections have been substantially expanded, with source quotes where applicable, to address the above comments. The lead has also been expanded to summarize the longer article. Let us know if there are other suggestions to improve the article. KimChee (talk) 14:33, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- In the Murders section, it should be mentioned 1) how the murders happened 2) How did the police found out who was responsible. "Public reaction and aftermath" should be expanded as it's not clear why this case was so important. Perhaps we need more details on why some people think that sentences for women in murder cases should be different. Perhaps some quotes from some supporters will do it?
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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- Pass/Fail:
Overall this is a well written article but I think there are a few important parts missing. I will pass it as soon as the sections above will have been expanded.27/11/2010: Thanks a lot for the improvements, it's much better now, so I've passed the article. Congratulation! Laurent (talk) 16:51, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
Copyright compliance
Portions of the article have been rewritten to comply with an open CCI. KimChee (talk) 22:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Lewis's son
Is there any reason why her son, Billy Bean, is not mentioned under "children"?
http://www.wtoc.com/story/13194927/attorney-for-teresa-lewis-talks-about-his-clients-scheduled-execution?clienttype=printable — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brett434 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
- If you feel it is needed please add it yourself. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)