Talk:Teodor Atanasiu

February 2015

@Boricua78, Biruitorul, Bonadea, Dewritech, and Atanasiu Teodor:Please start a discussion here for any and all proposed edits. Deunanknute (talk) 17:13, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

this page containd incorect references

I'm here to talk! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

which references, exactly, are incorrect? Deunanknute (talk) 19:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

11.(Romanian) "Procurorii nu au început urmărirea penală în dosarul lui Teodor Atanasiu" ("Prosecutors Do Not Begin Penal Investigation of Teodor Atanasiu"), Gardianul, 19 September 2006; accessed November 22, 2009
12. (Romanian) Alina Mihai, "A dat Armata pe un comisar" ("He Gave the Army for a Commissioner"), Cotidianul, 25 October 2006; accessed November 22, 2009
13. (Romanian) "PD vânează MApN" ("PD Hunts for Defence"), Ziua, 24 October 2006; accessed November 22, 2009

I think this page is made on rumors not on facts.. I made a slightly change from start and my contribution was ignored. This page is made on demand I need an admin.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Are you saying these references are not reliable? Deunanknute (talk) 19:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

pls check! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for discussing on the article's talk page. However, you can't simply post to this talk page and then immediately restore your edits. The point of having a talk page discussion is to reach consensus. At least four different editors disagree with your proposed edits, and no other editos has so far agreed with them; hence, there is no consensus in favour of your changes. If you explain what it is you want to change with the article, and allow a few days for discussion, it might be possible for you to achieve such consensus.

Now, about your changes; one thing you keep inserting is allegations about Atanasiu's appointment as Minister of Defence. Phrases such as "backstage ​games" are not neutral and do not belong in a Wikipedia article. If there are reliable sources that refer to the process as "backstage ​games", you can add that information as a quote, clearly indicating whose opinions you are quoting.

If there are references that are inappropriate, please say what the problem is. Simply saying that references are "incorrect" isn't very informative, and telling other editors to check the references also isn't helpful - the burden is on you to show what the problem is. If a link is dead that's not necessarily a pronblem; it may be possible to find a new location for the information, or to add an archived version. But unless you tell us what the problem is with the references, it's hard to know what it is you want to do here. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 19:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Boricua78, please do not remove other people's talk page comments. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 20:08, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I need an admin!!

this page contains incorect refences — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Which references are incorrect? Please respond here, and do not edit the article. Deunanknute (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I will stop for now... but.. I need help from an admin...to improve this page base on facts not on rumours... 50% are rumours... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs)

I need help from a person with a Neutral point of view — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs)

That's why I came here. I am more than willing to help if you can explain the problem and not just change the page. Deunanknute (talk) 19:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Leave all new comments at the bottom, and do not change other peoples contributions on talk pages Deunanknute (talk) 19:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

from my point of view this page is protected on purpose..

I made a slightly change and somebody took as big offence..

after verifing this page based on real facts... I realize this page is made on demand...

if 50% of this was real..then we should have an accused person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs)

In need an admin to reconstruct this page from start over... based... on real facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs)

OK, we probably don't need to start over from scratch, although this page does have a pretty dicey history with completely deleted versions. And we don't need to worry about accusing anyone at this time. Which facts are wrong, and what is the correct version? Please answer here. Deunanknute (talk) 20:04, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@Boricua78:STOP EDITING THE ARTICLE PAGE I am willing to help you, if you cooperate. Deunanknute (talk) 20:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

somebody accused him - he hired his brother in law in avas... if that was true... then this person must not be a politician...

and must resign... ... all of this stories are from hush hush magazines..

this page is made to destroy his political future and is attending to his family image.. pls recontruct this page.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs)

One step at a time. Which facts in this article are incorrect? Deunanknute (talk) 20:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Do not remove other's comments. What facts are wrong? I'm asking for specific lines from the article. Answer only at the bottom of this page. Deunanknute (talk) 20:30, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

3. (Romanian) Adrian Horincar, "Teodor Atanasiu a minţit cu casa!" ("Teodor Atanasiu Lied about His House!"), Gardianul (hosted by realitatea.net), 1 February 2008; accessed October 13, 2014

11.(Romanian) "Procurorii nu au început urmărirea penală în dosarul lui Teodor Atanasiu" ("Prosecutors Do Not Begin Penal Investigation of Teodor Atanasiu"), Gardianul, 19 September 2006; accessed November 22, 2009

12. (Romanian) Alina Mihai, "A dat Armata pe un comisar" ("He Gave the Army for a Commissioner"), Cotidianul, 25 October 2006; accessed November 22, 2009

13. (Romanian) "PD vânează MApN" ("PD Hunts for Defence"), Ziua, 24 October 2006; accessed November 22, 2009 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Those are references, which facts are wrong? Deunanknute (talk) 20:35, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@Deunanknute Those references are old .. any articol based on wrong references... can acusse somebody of bad behavior... pls. check them. Boricua78 (talk)

Soon afterward, he married Laura Bișboacă, a 25-year-old employee of the Alba County Council whom Atanasiu brought to Bucharest as an adviser at the Defence Ministry after being named to head that institution. The two married shortly thereafter, and have one daughter. Atanasiu later drew controversy for having Bișboacă's brother hired at the Agriculture Ministry (then controlled by a PNL colleague) and at the Authority for State Assets Recovery once Atanasiu was in charge there; as well as giving out jobs to his best man and business partner and to a business partner of his wife's.

for this acuzation... there is a The National Judicial Institute who can investigate..

this is not a fantasy magazine.. corect me if I'm wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricua78 (talk • contribs)

Which part of that is the problem? Did they not marry or have a daughter? Did she not work for the Defence Ministry? Did her brother not work at the Agriculture Ministry? Was there no controversy? You need to be specific. Please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not censored; if something is a fact it can be on Wikipedia, even if it is negative. Deunanknute (talk) 20:51, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

• Congratulations! You've gotten an administrator's attention. Because a series of new accounts have been created and made the same edit, I've protected this page. New editors are welcome and encouraged to discuss potential edits here, but they may not edit the page directly. —C.Fred (talk) 18:31, 15 February 2015 (UTC)