Talk:Taxation in the Republic of Ireland/Archive 1

Archive 1

Taxes on Motor Vehicles

Hello,

I'm not Irish but I live here. I'd just like to point out that one major form of taxation that has been overlooked is that paid for the purchase and ownership of a motorvehicle.

• Vehicle registration tax ranges from 22.5 to 30% depending on engine size and is payable upon purchase of the vehicle. This is a hidden tax that many people are unaware of.
• Value added tax is payable at the standard rate (21%) in addition
• Road tax payable on an annual basis... that's €151-€1343 depending on engine size
• Excise is payable upon importation of vehicles and passed on to the consumer. Since no vehicles are built in Ireland we all pay this excise indirectly.
• VAT is payable on insurance as well and insurance is not only compulsory but is also extremely expensive compared to every other country i've experienced.
• Petrol excise, at 6.35%, in addition to VAT are payable on petrol and deisel.
• There are no tax incentives to run a vehicle on natural gas or LPG however, a 50% VRT discount is offered for some hybrid vehicles.

1. Motor Tax: https://www.motortax.ie/mtoapp/pdf/motortax_rates_2004_en.pdf
2. VRT: http://oasis.gov.ie/moving_country/moving_to_ireland/importing_car_into_ireland.html#id3147392
3. Excise et al: http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2002/01/27/story567686728.asp

Ireland is one of the most expensive places on earth to own a motor vehicle as a direct result of taxation.

Factoid Killer 16:22, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Your spot on Factoid; could someone add something in relation to this? I will 'if' I get the chance. CGorman 20:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

What absolute rubbish. Scandinavia, Japan and many other places are far more expensive. In particular I do not agree that insurance is expensive here. Perhaps it was back in 2006 when you wrote the above. User:spacetweek August 2012

VRT is expensive for many of the people who actually pay VRT in this State. A great many people, especially in Border counties, and in particular Donegal, do not. What many of them do, which the Revenue is well aware of, is run NI reg vehicles, sometimes registered at an address in the North, at which they do not reside, often backed up by a UK driving licence with a relative's address being used. Their insurance, if they have any, will be based on that bogus address. Many of them also possess licences from both jurisdictions.

Despite petrol excise, fuel is not expensive here. Hence the steady stream of visitors from Derry to Donegal petrol stations.

Stamp Duty

I think the discussion on Stamp Duty needs to be fleshed out a little more to note the differences between property purchases for residence and property purchases for investment. Further, the broad scope of several amendments to the Stamp Duty tax should be noted particulary the amendment that excludes from 'first time buyer' status anyone who owns a house in any other jurisdcition. --Lochdale 23:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Royalties

Artists who earn income from royalties have or had a very favourable taxation treatment. I believe that this may be being (or has already been) repealed or restricted. Missing from the article. Paul Beardsell 00:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Untitled

This article is part of the Irish featured article drive.

Durrus 21:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

To do list

Hi, there is only free healthcare for the over 70s, and those who qualify for medical cards, low income threshold, maybe the article should qualify 'free healthcare'

• History of Irish taxation
• Taxes on income
  • The pay as you earn system
  • Taxation on those self employed
  • Pay related social insurance
  • Capital gains tax
  • DIRT
• Taxes on consumption and purchases
  • VAT
  • Excise duties
  • Stamp duty
  • Capital acquisitions tax
• Taxes on business
  • Corporation tax
• Taxation at local level
  • Rates

The chart in "International Comparison" labels Switzerland not Ireland!

Durrus 21:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Taxes on income

The current entry here is vague and inaccurate. Further CGT should not be included as it does not refer to Income within a taxation definition of same. I will post a possible edit onto this discussion later in the week, I've already started working on it. Other than that it is a good enough article, fair play to the editors on it so far. Cilldara 00:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Budget 2011

I am planning on updating for Budget 2011 when I can. Stifle (talk) 16:48, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

tax avoidance and tax evasion

Lots of nonsense removed. Avoidance is legal. When a supposed avoidance scheme is found to be illegal then it is and never was avoidance, it was always evasion. Paul Beardsell 02:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Shocked at tone used to write this section. Auditing of business for tax compliance is written in such as way as to encourage businesses to avoid paying tax. Lots of nonsense about water and bin charges - water charges have not been "scrapped", they will be introduced shortly and bin charges are not unpopular. User:spacetweek August 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 22:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Taxation in the Republic of Ireland/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

==Class== I rated this a start class because it has wide breadth but lacks coverage in history. Further, it has a clean up banner on it.EECavazos 03:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC) ==Priority== I rated this a top priority article because it covers the tax scheme of an English speaking country, likely to have many readers seeking information.EECavazos 04:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Last edited at 04:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 07:42, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Other Taxes

1. Plastic bag levy (22c payable for every plastic shopping bag over a particular size. This is also payable on bio-degradable plastic bags.)
2. Refuse tax - Varies depending on the county council. Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown charge €350/annum or alternatively you can pay by the kilogram.
3. There's a new levy on electical goods where at the time of purchase you're paying for the disposal of said goods. The rates vary based on the cost of the item. (Unsigned) 15:19, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Related article about vehicle registration tax

There is an article Vehicle_registration_tax_(Ireland) that seems quite related to the section Taxation_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland#Vehicle_Registration_Tax. Maybe someone would be interested in making that article and the section here more aligned, and, of course, help getting rid of more of the bias in the Vehicle_registration_tax_(Ireland) article? --Jhertel (talk) 10:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)