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Did you know... that after Taters Chatham stole the chelengk of Lord Nelson (replica pictured) in 1951 it was never recovered?

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The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 16:39, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Replica of Nelson's chelengk

... that after Taters Chatham stole the chelengk of Lord Nelson (replica pictured) in 1951 it was never recovered? Source: "During the night the diamond chelengk was stolen from a display in the Nelson Gallery and has never been recovered" from: Prentice, Rina (2005). The Authentic Nelson. National Maritime Museum. p. 73. ISBN 978-0-948065-62-0. and from: "Nelson's stolen Turkish military award replicated". Daily Telegraph. 21 October 2017. and "No one was ever arrested for the theft of the sultan's jewel, but in 1994 George Chatham confessed to the crime, which already bore all his hallmarks." from:Downer, Martyn (20 October 2017). Nelson's Lost Jewel: The Extraordinary Story of the Lost Diamond Chelengk. The History Press. p. 240. ISBN 978-0-7509-8611-3.
- ALT1: ... that Taters Chatham stole the chelengk of Lord Nelson (replica pictured) and two swords of the Duke of Wellington? Source: "His most famous theft was of the Duke of Wellington's swords from the Victoria and Albert Museum in 1948." from: Campbell, Duncan (7 June 1997). "Obituary: A burglar's rich pickings: George 'Taters' Chatham". The Guardian.
- ALT2: ... that after being injured in a break-in Taters Chatham resumed his career as a burglar swathed in bandages? Source: "on one occasion he carried out a burglary while still recovering from a previous fall: a terrified maid found him in a house bandaged all over and with an arm in plaster" from: Campbell, Duncan (7 June 1997). "Obituary: A burglar's rich pickings: George 'Taters' Chatham". The Guardian. and "Having targeted the then Countess of Dartmouth (later Raine Spencer), he fell four floors from her roof and spent six weeks in hospital, only to return to the fray swathed in plaster and bandages." from: Hobbs, Dick (9 June 1997). "George Chatham". The Independent. Retrieved 18 October 2022.
- ALT3: ... that professional thief Taters Chatham carried out his last attempted burglary at the age of 81? Source: "His "career" ended when he fell breaking into an art gallery when he was 81." from: "Top crook Taters has his chips". The Sun. 7 June 1997.
- ALT4: ... that prolific burglar Taters Chatham researched his targets in Burke's Peerage, Country Life and Tatler? Source: "He was an independent operator who, before his gambling habit drove him to foolhardy risk- taking, researched his targets via Burke's Peerage, Country Life and the Tatler. " from "King of the cat burglars who stole from the Queen Mother". Irish Independent. 30 March 2013. Retrieved 18 October 2022.
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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 13:42, 2 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

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Cited: - problems
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Dumelow: good article but two problems. First, Alt2 does mention the going into robberies bandaged yet doesn't seem to mention that he was injured in a break in (using the quotes you've provided). Alt4 quote that you used for the hook isn't even in the source you've provided. If possible, could you provide better sources. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:24, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Onegreatjoke , thanks for the review. For ALT2 he Independent is clear that he fell from the roof of the Countess of Dartmouth's house during a robbery, see quote above. I copied the wrong citation for ALT4, it is from the Independent, not the Irish Independent, it is cited correctly in the article - Dumelow (talk) 18:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright approving. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:32, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section too long

The existing lead section is too long for the length of this article. The length of the lead section needs to be kept in proportion with the article. For this article, in its current state, there should be one, or perhaps two, lead paragraphs, not three. The number of characters mentioned in the the table is the readable prose size, which is less than the total number of article characters shown on the page history. The lead section should introduce the subject and highlight the important points of the article. It should be a summary of the article, not a mini biography, nor should it be a news style lede that teases readers. It should answer the basic who, what, when, where, and why questions that readers might have about the subject of the article, before reading further. That means the most important facts should be presented first and briefly in the lead section. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:38, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]