Talk:Tarantula (Marvel Comics)

about superhero infobox data

You can think I am a bit naiv, but does this Fabian relative of Black Tarantula's has anything to do with Fabian Cortez where the disambiguation page links to? Lajbi 15:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

• Ooh, and by the way, does "inactive" mean that he is deceased or just haven't appeared in comics panels for a while, but in this case we should mark it "uncertain", because we can't know what is the writers' intents with him.Lajbi 15:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I also think the word "regenerate" is kinda ambiguous. It can be used as a reflexive verb for "to heal oneself" as well as a transitive verb "to reproduce sg". So an organ can regenerate, but a wound not. But maybe I'm mistaken... Lajbi 16:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I had created the profile for Black Tarantula and when I put it on the Tarantula's page I realized that it was a character that had nothing to do with him. I apologize and it's my first time editing a page.
      • No, it's okay. It fits the article. Fine like this. Thanks for having it reformatted. Lajbi 12:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Ultimate Tarantula

Anything outside of stating that BMB said "Ultimate Tarantula" will appear in the Clone Saga arc of Ultimate Spider-Man is speculative and/or rings of independent analysis (e.g. "Well, he looks like he could be the Tarantula"). Either way, it's a breach of policy (either WP:NOT or WP:NOR. Any attempts to add it again without discussing first is vandalism. --Newt_ΨΦ 04:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Compromise and comparison

I recognize the unregistered user that has been editing the Ultimate Tarantula section wishes to be as informative as possible, so I'm wondering if there's anything we can do to help them. I'd like to think that we all can be reasonably sure that the character in question is the Ultimate Tarantula, so is there any way that we can list a comparison of that character with the other Tarantulas or is that OR? I've seen and gotten away with comparison in articles in the past. If not, I guess we can move on and keep patrolling. --Psyphics_ΨΦ 16:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Without a source where Marvel calls the character Tarantula, yeah, it's OR. It wouldn't even be that useful because he has little in common with 616 Tarantulas. Even at that, we would still have to note that the character has not been called that in the comics because, as our comics editing guidelines stress, it's not official till it appears in the comics (remember Hawk/Monarch and Green Lantern: Emerald Dawn). A decent source noting that many fans think the character is Tarantula would be okay as long as the source is properly cited and little more is said about the character than that. It is a fact that fans think the character is the Tarantula. It is not an established fact that the character is the Tarantula. Doczilla 23:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Ultimate character w/ 4 arms and black costume.

1) The image shouldn't be include as the character has not bee identified in story by the name "Tarantula", nor has a name be explicitly used by the publisher or writer to identify it.

2) The image itself should either be renamed or deleted on the same grounds.

— J Greb 03:12, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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Additional re the Ultimate universe

The following revised text has been proposed for the section:

Writer Brian Michael Bendis stated in Wizard Magazine that an Ultimate version of Tarantula was set to appear in the "Clone Saga" arc of Ultimate Spider-Man.[1] Although the story arc introduces several new spider-powered characters, none are identified as the Tarantula. The black costume worn by a six-armed Spider-Man clone (reportedly dead as of Ultimate Spider-Man #103) bears a spider-logo similar to Alvarez's; also, like the second Tarantula, he had been mutated to possess spider-like eyes (which endow him with night vision), fur, and venomous fangs. He tried to save Mary Jane from an evil Spider-man clone called Kaine", only to be impaled on a metal pipe by his own creator, the Ultimate version of Doctor Octopus. In Ultimate Secrets 2008 his identity was officially confirmed as Tarantula in his Marvel Handbook entry.

Can someone aside from the editor that has been inserting this into the article verify the "Ultimate Secrets" as a source for the character's name?

Thanks - J Greb (talk) 23:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea..I actually bought a copy at my local comic shop..It is esentially guide (Like the Marvel handbook for...) for lesser known Ulitmate characters like Ultimate Bishop, that two headed guy Syndicate from Ultimate X-Men, Ultimate Spider-Woman and the other Spider clones (Scorpion, Tarantula, and Kain). It lists the Black Six-armed Sider-clone as the Tarantula, that his first appearance as tarantula was Ultimate Spider-man 100. I know he wasn't called tarantula in the series..but we do seem to use Marvel handbook info in articles about lesser known characters..such as Agony getting renamed Leslie Genaria after the Official Marvel Handbook Spider-man Back in Black came out. Qilinmon (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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Recent changes

Recently, the article was changed to remove three of the seven different characters named Tarantula with an edit summary of "The determination of article content by the article's name rather than its subject is a disturbing trend of articles on comic book characters. Fixing this problem here." Which I reverted with an edit summary of "rv back to previous version since the changes do nothing to fix a perceived problem" because the edits did not make the article about one particular character named Tarantula, but seemed to pick and choose which of the seven to leave in the article. Because the edits did not change the article to be about a subject, but still about some of the article's name characters, I put the "perceived problem" because NukeofEarl thinks this is a problem, but did not actually fix it in line with the edit summary. My reversion was reverted with an edit summary of "Rv unconstructive edit; if you perceive a problem, then fix it; don't revert edits simply because they don't address a problem that no one else has noticed." That statement confuses me because it actually describes the changes that were made: a problem was perceived, changes made that did not really fix it and it was a problem that no one else noticed.

Since the article has had the numerous different characters name Tarantula for a while, they should all stay, unless there is a valid reason for removing some of them. Since the information was not moved elsewhere, it would be lost here on Wikipedia. Per WP:BRD, now that the issue is here, it should be reverted back to the stable version, discussed here until a consensus is reached and if found, then changes should be made. Aspects (talk) 07:51, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

First, a correction to the above account: Aspects did not simply revert the removal of three characters from the article; he reverted all of my recent edits to the article. These include (but are not limited to) adding sourced information about the character's creation, expanding the lead to give something more than a generic "Character appearing in Marvel Comics" statement, and clarification of ambiguous prose.

Moving on... As must be clear to anyone familiar with the Marvel Comics Tarantula, I did not simply "pick and choose" which characters to remove. The characters I kept are those which are simply different incarnations of the same character. The characters I removed are those which have nothing in common with the subject character aside from having the same codename and publisher (and since Tarantula is a very generic name, that's not even much of a coincidence). This is the same reason why Hobgoblin (comics) includes Roderick Kingsley and Jason Macendale but not Hobgoblin of the Imperial Guard. The editors of that article didn't arbitrarily "pick and choose" which characters to include; rather, they simply recognized that the subject of the article is a character, not a name.--NukeofEarl (talk) 14:52, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

I think this article is laid out poorly. It seems to put all the characters on equal footing, but I don't think they're all equally notable. It also seems weird to have 6 characters listed the FCB section, and then have one randomly stuck in "other versions". I get that it's 616 vs Ultimate, but that's not immediately obvious to a casual reader. Why not include him with the other six as "Ultimate Trantula"?

I'd suggest re-structuring the whole article to mimic Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) and replacing a most of the plot recaps with publication history AND/OR throw some of the minor versions into List of Marvel Comics characters: T and put a "for other Marvel Comics characters with this name" link at the top. Argento Surfer (talk) 15:16, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't approve of the transferring of trivial fancruft to "List of Marvel Comics characters" articles as a way of getting around WP:NOTABILITY policy, but I'm aware that consensus is against me in that regard at present, so if someone wants to do that I won't object. Replacing most of the plot recaps with publication history sounds like a great idea to me, but I don't know if we have enough sourced out-of-universe info on Tarantula to pull that off yet.--NukeofEarl (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

It's been over three days now without further discussion, and Aspects still has not provided any justification for reverting my edits, so I'm going to go ahead and restore them. To reiterate my previous post, if anyone wishes to preserve the content on the non-related Tarantulas by moving it to List of Marvel Comics characters: T, I will not object to that (though I frankly think retaining said content would be a waste of time, since it consists solely of in-universe content).--NukeofEarl (talk) 17:32, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

We need to add this

Television

• In Spider-Man: Maximum Venom the Tarantula persona was briefly used by the Chameleon when he was recuted by Norman Osborn's plan for taking over Horizon High and disguised as Spider-Girl's stepsister Maria Corazon and piloting a mech suit.

Here watch it https://www.wcostream.com/spider-man-season-3-episode-5-generations --Powetcrusher (talk) 11:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

The alias being briefly used by an entirely different character doesn't seem notable to me. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)