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Request change in citation format

삭은사과, thank you for adding the citations [1] about the party's political position (left wing). I have a suggestion for a small change. Would it be OK to slightly trim the quotes in the citations a bit? Another suggest is to remove the bolding in the quote. If the quote is trimmed, perhaps the bold font may not be required.--DreamLinker (talk) 09:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. please improve the document!--삭은사과 (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@삭은사과: Thank you. I have done the changes [2].--DreamLinker (talk) 09:45, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Talk:Democratic Progressive Party#RfC on replacing left–right position with cross-Strait position

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Democratic Progressive Party#RfC on replacing left–right position with cross-Strait position. Ythlev (talk) 11:53, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Political position

The position of the TSP has been extensively discussed on Chinese Wikipedia. It is noteworthy that both left-wing and far-right positions have been referenced, and the TSP is known for its strong anti-China stance, with a history of propagating conspiracy theories related to Huawei smartphones. MELT1917 (talk) 14:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

opposing PRC doesn't automatically make one "far-right". Also Huawei smartphones having security issues has been extensively documented and it's "conspiracy theory". 78.58.3.21 (talk) 20:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

isn't a "conspiracy theory".

78.58.3.21 (talk) 20:30, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Storm Media and CredereMedia are both recognized Taiwanese media outlets, often cited on Chinese Wikipedia. I have provided citations for the original texts I referenced. TSP founder Chen Yi-chi claimed that using Huawei phones would result in data theft, but has not presented reliable evidence to support this assertion, relying instead on subjective speculation. MELT1917 (talk) 13:41, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is well known that Shinzo Abe represents the right-wing in Japan, and TSP strongly supports Shinzo Abe and pro-Japanese sentiments. If TSP is left-wing, why doesn't it support the JCP or CDP?^[1] MELT1917 (talk) 13:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To claim that party is ideologically far-right because it supports politicians in foreign countries most supportive of Taiwan is absolutely ridiculous. Alignment on foreign policy doesn't determine ideological position. 78.58.3.21 (talk) 00:34, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that I didn't remove the left-wing political position, right? I just changed it to "Big tent," a more neutral stance. MELT1917 (talk) 06:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think infobox should include "far-right" or "big tent". Taiwanese left-wing nationalists defend Japanese far-right nationalists because they are anti-Chinese and sympathetic to Taiwanese independence, not because Taiwanese left-wing nationalists are economically and culturally far-right ultraconservative. The "big tent" is not mentioned in the source. Just because Shinzo Abe is a far-right politician does not mean that TSP becomes a far-right party. Even if Jimmy Lai supports Donald Trump, Jimmy Lai is a liberal in Hong Kong. ProKMT (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest removing 'political position' from infobox. Because Taiwanese politics is complicated, writing this down is not productive at all. ProKMT (talk) 07:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "追思台灣恩人安倍晉三基進南北串聯齊悼念".

Far-right tag is inaccurate

Opposition to PRC doesn't automatically make party "far-right". Considering the party is socially progressive and pro-indepence it is more accurate to describe it as "left-wing nationalist" like Sinn Féin in Ireland. 78.58.3.21 (talk) 00:41, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want to ask, is opposing people from mainland China coming to Taiwan a left-wing policy?^[1]

Does Sinn Féin advocate against English people coming to Ireland? MELT1917 (talk) 06:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By your logic Social Democratic Party of Denmark is "far-right" because it opposes immigration. Uncontrollable immigration is not only universal security threat, but also pushes down wages of local workforce. 78.58.3.21 (talk) 08:44, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No English source refers to the TSP as "far-right". This is not a Chinese Wikipedia, but an English Wikipedia; English sources absolutely take precedence over Chinese sources. ProKMT (talk) 07:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "中國暑期營隊統戰台灣「首來族」青年".

[1] "追思台灣恩人安倍晉三基進南北串聯齊悼念".

[2] "中國暑期營隊統戰台灣「首來族」青年".

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