Talk:Taeyeon/Archive 2
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Lead image (again)
I've just been reverted by DragonFury, so bringing this for a discussion here. I changed the image from
to
The original was from 2019, while the one I put in was from 2017. I did so in accordance to MOS:IMAGEQUALITY; my interpretation was that a better image, even if it was from a couple years prior, should be favoured over a more recent one. Thoughts? Sdrqaz (talk) 12:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Support more recent — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:20, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- It is only two years' difference though, and the newer one seems ... pretty terrible. (Don't know how to put it in a nicer way) Sdrqaz (talk) 12:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I would support the bottom image, the quality is better and it is a more flattering image than the oke above. Alex (talk) 12:39, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- The description of quality the MOS gives (dark or blurry; showing the subject too small, hidden in clutter, or ambiguous) doesn't really deal with quality in terms of resolution or clarity beyond "is the subject shown clearly?". In my opinion once this basic premise is achieved (and both photos shown do so), the more recent photo should be used as it is the more accurate representation. As an aside; the photo that is being used as of about three hours ago is absolutely terrible. DragonFury (talk) 14:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Following a link here from WP:BLPN - what does the subject look like when she is most representative? Does she sing, or interview, or do whatever she does wearing glasses or not? How about a huge fur coat? That should be the deciding characteristic here. By the way, folks, having a plethora of acceptable images to choose from is known as a good problem to have. There are lots and lots of articles that would be thrilled to have multiple acceptable images for their subject. --GRuban (talk) 20:54, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- @GRuban: Taeyeon have multiple looks over the years, blond hair, pink hair, brown hair, black hair, black with white subtle hair, etc. K-pop artist goes through multiple looks over the years to fix their concept hence there isn't really when she look the most representative as that's subjective and may differ. As mentioned, she is K-pop artist hence I'm going to assume you've heard before of the term. Just last November and December, she released her Japanese and Korean EP respectively hence she is active. The glasses she wearing is often either glassless or 0-degree glasses, although it is just occassionally (btw, this type of styling is common within K-pop industry). As mentioned above, I support using most recent image. My criteria for infobox images, is highest resolution, clear, not unglam or weird looking and not copyvio (btw, must meet all 4 criteria). — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 00:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @GRuban: Adding on as I missed out, she is currently casted in variety show Amazing Saturday which is filmed in days within Wednesday–Friday (not sure, what is the exact day however only 1 filming day) per week hence she is active in the industry. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 00:55, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @GRuban: Taeyeon have multiple looks over the years, blond hair, pink hair, brown hair, black hair, black with white subtle hair, etc. K-pop artist goes through multiple looks over the years to fix their concept hence there isn't really when she look the most representative as that's subjective and may differ. As mentioned, she is K-pop artist hence I'm going to assume you've heard before of the term. Just last November and December, she released her Japanese and Korean EP respectively hence she is active. The glasses she wearing is often either glassless or 0-degree glasses, although it is just occassionally (btw, this type of styling is common within K-pop industry). As mentioned above, I support using most recent image. My criteria for infobox images, is highest resolution, clear, not unglam or weird looking and not copyvio (btw, must meet all 4 criteria). — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 00:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Following a link here from WP:BLPN - what does the subject look like when she is most representative? Does she sing, or interview, or do whatever she does wearing glasses or not? How about a huge fur coat? That should be the deciding characteristic here. By the way, folks, having a plethora of acceptable images to choose from is known as a good problem to have. There are lots and lots of articles that would be thrilled to have multiple acceptable images for their subject. --GRuban (talk) 20:54, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- The description of quality the MOS gives (dark or blurry; showing the subject too small, hidden in clutter, or ambiguous) doesn't really deal with quality in terms of resolution or clarity beyond "is the subject shown clearly?". In my opinion once this basic premise is achieved (and both photos shown do so), the more recent photo should be used as it is the more accurate representation. As an aside; the photo that is being used as of about three hours ago is absolutely terrible. DragonFury (talk) 14:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding the new image
I understand that using an image from 2019 isn't ideal in portraying the subject matter, but why is there this horrendous insistence on using terrible quality screenshots of videos that have been edited to hell and back with the PS blur tool? DragonFury (talk) 15:14, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- It really isn't ideal. I'm assuming people just wanted some type of new image, regardless of the quality. I can provide an actual image took from a camera of her. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 19:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- That SBS Radio is certainly overly edited, even the metadata indicated Photoshop has been used in some capacities. While the current one isn't really the best, her image hasn't really change drastically over the years that would made her unrecognisable for the readers. If there are newer copyright-free image available that isn't watermarked and doesn't have awful accessories (excluding glasses) over her face then it would be great otherwise the current one works just fine for Wikipedia standards. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 00:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)