Talk:TMZ/Archives/2013

Requested move 2012

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The result of the proposal was not moved. I suggest taking this to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Websites and hashing out a single, common style guide via policy, instead of making a determination on each article. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

• (Subsequently moved by UtherSRG - see User talk:UtherSRG/Archive 4#Salon.) -- Trevj (talk) 13:22, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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TMZ.com → TMZ (website) – Previously moved boldly to this new title. I reverted and brought it here as a matter of procedure after unsuccessfully encouraging the page mover to do so himself. See also Talk:Salon.com#Requested move.relisted--Mike Cline (talk) 12:51, 24 March 2012 (UTC) --DeLarge (talk) 12:00, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. Violates the MOS guideline WP:TITLECHANGES, namely "if an article title has been stable for a long time, and there is no good reason to change it, it should not be changed." The TLD suffix is widely used as a disambiguator for websites (see Category:Websites and its many subcategories). WP:NCDAB does not make any insistence on using a word in parenthesis as the primary style of disambiguation, and in fact offers several alternatives. Page mover cited three other recent move requests where the ".com" was removed after he'd added it, but that was in cases where the title did not need disambiguation. See also WP:NCCORP, where the legal status suffix (e.g. LLC, inc., Ltd, etc) is recommended as a disambiguator where required, but not used at all when this is not the case. --DeLarge (talk) 12:00, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
• Support; reliable sources just call it TMZ, not TMZ.com. Powers ^T 14:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
• Support; As DeLarge himself contested to remove ".com" at Talk:Radar Online, Talk:Slant Magazine, Talk:Comic Book Resources and Talk:Comics Bulletin, the name of the site is the name of the site, and should be treated as official and sacrosanct. "Website" and ".com" are synonymous — they mean exactly the same thing. So it's proper to use the version that doesn't change the name of the site. WP:TITLECHANGES allows changes if there is a good reason, and respecting the name of the site is a very good reason.--Tenebrae (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
• Soft Oppose. (Website) and .com are not the same thing generally and especially not here. Obviously no one has even bothered to check out their "about" pages.
  
  www.tmz.com is a URL;
  TMZ is (or should be – their editors aren't the greatest and they themselves muff this) the name of the product; and
  TMZ.com is (definitively) the legal name of the Warner Bros. subsidiary that owns the URL and creates the product.
  
  TMZ.com signs the paychecks of the people who write for TMZ, which is a website magazine located at www.tmz.com. As long as the Wikipedia page uses TMZ.com as the name of the product (e.g., "On July 28, 2006, TMZ.com was the first to report..."), then TMZ.com is definitively the best namespace for the article. If those uses are corrected to TMZ so that the article is clearly talking about the magazine and not the Warner Bros. subsidiary, it's fine to rename it. — LlywelynII 15:44, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
  • The article is indeed meant to be about the magazine-style site, TMZ, just as The New York Times article is about the newspaper and not The New York Times Publishing Company. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
• oppose for precision. Its not lots of domains like google or yahoo would have, its just tmz.com. Callmederek (talk) 18:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move 2013

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 23:48, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

• TMZ (website) → TMZ
• TMZ → TMZ (disambiguation)

– Based on Wikipedia traffic statistics, the website the primary topic of TMZ. Not to mention that the Thirty Mile Zone brings up 861,000 Google search results, while "TMZ" pulls in about 30,600,000. WikiRedactor (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

• Support. Agreed. The website is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 21:45, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
• Throw up in my mouth a bit, not a huge fan. But crystal clear primary topic. Support Red Slash 21:59, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
• Comment or it could mean the TV show. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 04:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
• Support. Per Status. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:04, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
• Support as per nom. Capscap (talk) 05:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
• Support; per nom, the site does seem to be the primary topic. ╠╣uw [talk] 15:24, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
• Support per nom.LM2000 (talk) 00:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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