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Size

How big is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.88.40 (talk • contribs)

Biblical reference

I am going to go ahead and change the "Yahweh" to "God", as the Bible specifically says "God". Does anyone have a problem?Prussian725 (talk) 04:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine

until a Palestinian state is created and recognized by the inte"ll community. the syrian brown bear is extinct in ISRAEL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.91.224 (talk) 06:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What source say

He who added this with sources wrought Palestine: [1], it was then changed here [2] without bringing any new source that can confirm the validity of the change. We must follow the source. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. The source says Palestine. Mariomassone (talk) 17:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

U. a. syriacus or U. a. arctos in Caucasus?

The lead (and distribution map) say that U. a. syriacus occurrs in the Caucasus. Yet, under evolutionary history, it says that alls brown bears in the Caucasus are U. a. arctos. Isn't that a contradiction? Or am I reading the statement re U. a. arctos wrong? Either way, I think some clarification is needed. Robuer (talk) 13:00, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Robuer: Coming from the perspective of a cat-fan, as you may see from my username, I know that certain animals that were regarded as subspecies may now be regarded as populations of subspecies, such as the Asiatic lion (formerly Panthera leo persica)^[1] now being regarded as a population of the subspecies Panthera leo leo, and the closely related Caspian and Siberian tigers (formerly Panthera tigris virgata and Panthera tigris altaica, respectively)^[2] as populations of the subspecies Panthera tigris tigris),^[3] but I do not have a reference for Ursus arctos syriacus being reclassified as a population of the subspecies Ursus arctos arctos. Leo1pard (talk) 05:57, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ {{IUCN |assessor=Henschel, P. |assessor2=Bauer, H. |assessor3=Sogbohoussou, E. |assessor4=Nowell, K. |last-assessor-amp=yes |year=2016 |id=68933833 |taxon=Panthera leo (West Africa subpopulation |version=2016.2}}
^ Mazák, V. (1981). "Panthera tigris" (PDF). Mammalian Species. 152 (152): 1–8. doi:10.2307/3504004. JSTOR 3504004.
^ Kitchener, A.C.; Breitenmoser-Würsten, C.; Eizirik, E.; Gentry, A.; Werdelin, L.; Wilting, A.; Yamaguchi, N. (2017). "A revised taxonomy of the Felidae: The final report of the Cat Classification Task Force of the IUCN Cat Specialist Group" (PDF). Cat News. Special Issue 11: 76–77. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |last-author-amp= ignored (|name-list-style= suggested) (help)

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Leo1pard (talk) 05:57, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Did Caspian tigers prey on brown bears?

Today, the brown bear's region has leopards and wolves, and a leopard had killed two small bears in the Caucusus, in 1931.^[1] Previously, the bear had also been sympatric with the Asiatic lion and Caspian tiger,^[2] which I find interesting, because in this age, the tiger preys on bears. In particular, the Amur tiger (which is closely related to the Caspian tiger) preys on the Ussuri brown bear.^[1] Leo1pard (talk) 07:46, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Mammals of the Soviet Union Vol.II Part 1a, SIRENIA AND CARNIVORA (Sea cows; Wolves and Bears), V.G Heptner and N.P Naumov editors, Science Publishers, Inc. USA. 1998. ISBN 1-886106-81-9
^ Masseti, M. (2009). Carnivores of Syria In: E. Neubert, Z. Amr, S. Taiti, B. Gümüs (eds.) Animal Biodiversity in the Middle East. Proceedings of the First Middle Eastern Biodiversity Congress, Aqaba, Jordan, 20–23 October 2008. ZooKeys 31: 229–252.

Name of Syria

'Syria' may refer to two places:

1) The modern country, which is called Sūriyā (Arabic: سُـوْرِيَـا).^[1]

2) A broader, historical region, which is called Ash-Shām (Arabic: اَلـشَّـام),^[2] and includes the modern countries of Syria and Lebanon.^[3]^[4]

Both places are applicable to this bear, due to where it is recorded to have occurred.^[5]^[6] Leo1pard (talk) 12:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Tvedtnes, John A. (1981). "The Origin of the Name "Syria"". Journal of Near Eastern Studies. 40 (2): 139. doi:10.1086/372868.
^ Killebrew, A. E.; Steiner, M. L. (2014). The Oxford Handbook of the Archaeology of the Levant: C. 8000-332 BCE. OUP Oxford. p. 2. ISBN 978-0-19-921297-2. The western coastline and the eastern deserts set the boundaries for the Levant ... The Euphrates and the area around Jebel el-Bishrī mark the eastern boundary of the northern Levant, as does the Syrian Desert beyond the Anti-Lebanon range's eastern hinterland and Mount Hermon. This boundary continues south in the form of the highlands and eastern desert regions of Transjordan.
^ Article "AL-SHĀM" by C.E. Bosworth, Encyclopaedia of Islam, Volume 9 (1997), page 261.
^ Salibi, K. S. (2003). A House of Many Mansions: The History of Lebanon Reconsidered. I.B.Tauris. pp. 61–62. ISBN 978-1-86064-912-7. To the Arabs, this same territory, which the Romans considered Arabian, formed part of what they called Bilad al-Sham, which was their own name for Syria. From the classical perspective however Syria, including Palestine, formed no more than the western fringes of what was reckoned to be Arabia between the first line of cities and the coast. Since there is no clear dividing line between what are called today the Syrian and Arabian deserts, which actually form one stretch of arid tableland, the classical concept of what actually constituted Syria had more to its credit geographically than the vaguer Arab concept of Syria as Bilad al-Sham. Under the Romans, there was actually a province of Syria, with its capital at Antioch, which carried the name of the territory. Otherwise, down the centuries, Syria like Arabia and Mesopotamia was no more than a geographic expression. In Islamic times, the Arab geographers used the name arabicized as Suriyah, to denote one special region of Bilad al-Sham, which was the middle section of the valley of the Orontes river, in the vicinity of the towns of Homs and Hama. They also noted that it was an old name for the whole of Bilad al-Sham which had gone out of use. As a geographic expression, however, the name Syria survived in its original classical sense in Byzantine and Western European usage, and also in the Syriac literature of some of the Eastern Christian churches, from which it occasionally found its way into Christian Arabic usage. It was only in the nineteenth century that the use of the name was revived in its modern Arabic form, frequently as Suriyya rather than the older Suriyah, to denote the whole of Bilad al-Sham: first of all in the Christian Arabic literature of the period, and under the influence of Western Europe. By the end of that century it had already replaced the name of Bilad al-Sham even in Muslim Arabic usage.
^ Masseti, M. (2009). Carnivores of Syria In: E. Neubert, Z. Amr, S. Taiti, B. Gümüs (eds.) Animal Biodiversity in the Middle East. Proceedings of the First Middle Eastern Biodiversity Congress, Aqaba, Jordan, 20–23 October 2008. ZooKeys 31: 229–252.
^ Mammals of the Soviet Union Vol.II Part 1a, SIRENIA AND CARNIVORA (Sea cows; Wolves and Bears), V.G Heptner and N.P Naumov editors, Science Publishers, Inc. USA. 1998. ISBN 1-886106-81-9

[Iucn2016Lion-1] {{IUCN |assessor=Henschel, P. |assessor2=Bauer, H. |assessor3=Sogbohoussou, E. |assessor4=Nowell, K. |last-assessor-amp=yes |year=2016 |id=68933833 |taxon=Panthera leo (West Africa subpopulation |version=2016.2}}

[Mazák1981-2] Mazák, V. (1981). "Panthera tigris" (PDF). Mammalian Species. 152 (152): 1–8. doi:10.2307/3504004. JSTOR 3504004.

[Catsg2017-3] Kitchener, A.C.; Breitenmoser-Würsten, C.; Eizirik, E.; Gentry, A.; Werdelin, L.; Wilting, A.; Yamaguchi, N. (2017). "A revised taxonomy of the Felidae: The final report of the Cat Classification Task Force of the IUCN Cat Specialist Group" (PDF). Cat News. Special Issue 11: 76–77. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |last-author-amp= ignored (|name-list-style= suggested) (help)

[soviet-4] Mammals of the Soviet Union Vol.II Part 1a, SIRENIA AND CARNIVORA (Sea cows; Wolves and Bears), V.G Heptner and N.P Naumov editors, Science Publishers, Inc. USA. 1998. ISBN 1-886106-81-9

[Masseti2009-5] Masseti, M. (2009). Carnivores of Syria In: E. Neubert, Z. Amr, S. Taiti, B. Gümüs (eds.) Animal Biodiversity in the Middle East. Proceedings of the First Middle Eastern Biodiversity Congress, Aqaba, Jordan, 20–23 October 2008. ZooKeys 31: 229–252.

[Tvedtnes1981-6] Tvedtnes, John A. (1981). "The Origin of the Name "Syria"". Journal of Near Eastern Studies. 40 (2): 139. doi:10.1086/372868.

[KillebrewSteiner2014-7] Killebrew, A. E.; Steiner, M. L. (2014). The Oxford Handbook of the Archaeology of the Levant: C. 8000-332 BCE. OUP Oxford. p. 2. ISBN 978-0-19-921297-2. The western coastline and the eastern deserts set the boundaries for the Levant ... The Euphrates and the area around Jebel el-Bishrī mark the eastern boundary of the northern Levant, as does the Syrian Desert beyond the Anti-Lebanon range's eastern hinterland and Mount Hermon. This boundary continues south in the form of the highlands and eastern desert regions of Transjordan.

[Volume_9_1997_page_261-8] Article "AL-SHĀM" by C.E. Bosworth, Encyclopaedia of Islam, Volume 9 (1997), page 261.

[Salibi2003-9] Salibi, K. S. (2003). A House of Many Mansions: The History of Lebanon Reconsidered. I.B.Tauris. pp. 61–62. ISBN 978-1-86064-912-7. To the Arabs, this same territory, which the Romans considered Arabian, formed part of what they called Bilad al-Sham, which was their own name for Syria. From the classical perspective however Syria, including Palestine, formed no more than the western fringes of what was reckoned to be Arabia between the first line of cities and the coast. Since there is no clear dividing line between what are called today the Syrian and Arabian deserts, which actually form one stretch of arid tableland, the classical concept of what actually constituted Syria had more to its credit geographically than the vaguer Arab concept of Syria as Bilad al-Sham. Under the Romans, there was actually a province of Syria, with its capital at Antioch, which carried the name of the territory. Otherwise, down the centuries, Syria like Arabia and Mesopotamia was no more than a geographic expression. In Islamic times, the Arab geographers used the name arabicized as Suriyah, to denote one special region of Bilad al-Sham, which was the middle section of the valley of the Orontes river, in the vicinity of the towns of Homs and Hama. They also noted that it was an old name for the whole of Bilad al-Sham which had gone out of use. As a geographic expression, however, the name Syria survived in its original classical sense in Byzantine and Western European usage, and also in the Syriac literature of some of the Eastern Christian churches, from which it occasionally found its way into Christian Arabic usage. It was only in the nineteenth century that the use of the name was revived in its modern Arabic form, frequently as Suriyya rather than the older Suriyah, to denote the whole of Bilad al-Sham: first of all in the Christian Arabic literature of the period, and under the influence of Western Europe. By the end of that century it had already replaced the name of Bilad al-Sham even in Muslim Arabic usage.

[Masseti2009-10] Masseti, M. (2009). Carnivores of Syria In: E. Neubert, Z. Amr, S. Taiti, B. Gümüs (eds.) Animal Biodiversity in the Middle East. Proceedings of the First Middle Eastern Biodiversity Congress, Aqaba, Jordan, 20–23 October 2008. ZooKeys 31: 229–252.

[Soviet-11] Mammals of the Soviet Union Vol.II Part 1a, SIRENIA AND CARNIVORA (Sea cows; Wolves and Bears), V.G Heptner and N.P Naumov editors, Science Publishers, Inc. USA. 1998. ISBN 1-886106-81-9

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