Talk:Syrian General Organization of Books

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Deletion proposal and WP:ORG

@Bsherr:, I saw that you revoked my deletion proposal due to the subject being a quasi-governmental organization. I agree that this appears to be the case; however, WP:ORG doesn't appear to treat governmental organizations any differently from private ones. Is there anywhere in the Manual of Style that supports this lower criterion of notability for government-sponsored organizations? Rosguill^talk 21:17, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Well, one won't find it in the Manual of Style, but in the notability guidelines, as you've correctly identified above. As you again correctly point out, those guidelines don't distinguish between governmental and private organizations. However, the standard for WP:CSD A7 is significance, not notability. Governmental organizations are almost always significant. That doesn't mean notability is met, just that the more nuanced and less hasty WP:AfD should be used instead of WP:CSD if deletion is to be considered. It may be that merging such an article is the better outcome.

In this particular case, this organization was created by Syrian law. There also seems to be a lot of Arabic news references. I personally think we should give a little more time to see how the article shapes up. What do you think? --Bsherr (talk) 22:38, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thanks for the reply and the corrections. Which Arabic news references are you referring to? I can't read Arabic so I'm of limited use, but pasting the title "الهيئة العامة السورية للكتاب / التعريف بالهيئة " into google returns a bunch of Syrian government websites, not news references. Rosguill^talk 22:42, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, here's one for example: https://www.tasnimnews.com/ar/news/2018/08/13/1801290/خاص-تسنیم-فی-ختام-معرض-دمشق-الدولی-للکتاب-تنوّع-سیاسی-فکری-وثقافی-وأدبی-وعلمی-صور

--Bsherr (talk) 22:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll leave any further discussion of the subject's notability for editors who can read Arabic sources. Rosguill^talk 22:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]