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Reviewer: Vortex3427 (talk · contribs) 09:20, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just a proofread before I review this in more detail.
  • Aftering After
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  • He drew admiration for Shaun Hutchinson's videos "drew admiration"? You could rephrase this into something like, "he was inspired by the idea of forming a personality through a mixture of both commentary and gameplay after watching the videos of Shuan Hutchinson, another YouTuber."
  •  Done Rephrased and split the sentence up as it was too long.
— VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 10:00, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing sources in replies here. — VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 08:48, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Intending to review this soon.

Thanks for the heads up. This is my first GAN nomination, but I will respond as best as I can. Sparkltalk 18:03, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is also still my 2nd GA review, btw
More prose stuff
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  • Through Hutchinson's videos, You could probably drop this.
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  • After his gaming attempts, Cassell registered his gaming YouTube channel... Cassell registered his main...
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  • His YouTube channel was built on On YouTube, he uploaded
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  • Call of Duty,. Remove comma
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  • He specifically came to prominence... you could probably drop "specifically" here, and add "with his videos on".
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  • through an email You could remove this part, as it's not necessary
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  • He quoted Did he quote himself? Maybe "he said"
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  • making gaming videos a full-time career This reads awkwardly. Not sure how to fix this, maybe "as a full-time career" or "...full-time career as a gaming YouTuber
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  • After passing 500,000 subscribers, his content featured Minecraft gameplay for the first time, titling Let's Play series such as The Minecraft Project and Trinity Island, as well as the Twitch series Mianite where Cassell forms a storyline through the game with fellow streamers, such as Jordan Maron and Sonja Reid.. Break this into two sentences, with a comma before "titling". Start the second sentence with something like "His Minecraft Let's Play series included..."
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Sources
  • Have yet to check the sources in more detail (especially if the more potentially iffy sources like Daily Mirror are used appropriately, but most of them look good.
— VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 07:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sparkl:
  • as a hobby, using his school holidays to make them in his free time seems to be redundant
  • As Eurogamer reported on his growing popuarity, Will Porter commented that Does the reporter need to be mentioned there? Maybe break this up into two sentences
  • During this experience "At the convention" would be clearer
  • ...Cassell made connections between the YouTube community and video game criticism I had trouble figuring out what you were saying here to the point where I had to check the original source. "Video game criticism" reads as the concept here, and I didn't know you were referring to video game journalists. You could change this to something like "...Casell drew video game journalists' attention to the YouTube gaming community"
  • in which he said "and said". You could also break this off into another sentence
  • most subscribed gaming commentator and director Director? Even if that's what the (Daily Mirror) source says, we haven't mentioned anything about him being a director in the article. It would probably be fine to just say "most subscribed gaming commentator"
  • The same channel "It" or "the channel"
  • cumulatively I think "cumulatively" is misplaced here.
  • Dowling noted "Dowling said". It sort of sounds like you're saying this in Wikipedia's voice rather than as Dowling's opinion
  • entertainment company 3BlackDot "entertaiment company" is vague. Is it possible to elaborate more on what this company does? A quick Google search says it does marketing and production. You also mention later in the article that it developed a game
  • Cassell later reached one billion views on his gaming channel in late 2013. "He reached}} Later is redundant here
  • interview from interview for
  • commented on Cassell's viewership as having said Cassell had
  • embark on vlogging between his residence between his residences. Is it also relevant to mention that his vlogging was on a seperate channel here, (as said later in the article) if that is mentioned by the sources
  • as part of the deals Might be redundant
  • start a vlogging career, as it opened to new ventures start of his... and opened new ventures for him
  • cited that Said that or noted that? I don't think "cited" really works here
  • after four years of his gaming channel had been registered four years after his gaming channel had been (or was) registered?
  • where he passed the channel for Riot Games to the record beforehand do you mean before Riot Games reached the record? Can you phrase this to be clearer?
  • cumulatively according to a Wired interview "culmatively" is sorta redundant. Also, did Wired say this or did he say this in the interview? Otherwise, you could just attribute it to him or say "according to Wired".
  • In November 2015, His gaming channel was nearly at 10 million subscribers, in which Wired noted was more than the channel for Beyoncé at the time. decapitalize "His". You could also make such an observation for all other channels then under ten million subscribers, not just Beyoncé.
— VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 06:58, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done this section. Sparkltalk 23:10, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In Content and style:
  • In the view of his uploading schedule and gaming content, Is this needed? This is already specified by the subheading and specifies gaming-related content throughout the paragraph.
  • mainatined mispelled. You could say "maintained his schedule of..." or "uploads"
  • had chosen chose
  • that brought about with
  • PC gamer, no comma
  • and presented "presented" doesn't work here
  • In correlation with this presence, he concluded This is awkward and could probably be shortened. Could you rephrase this to be more concise?
  • advised "advised others" or "said"
  • alter affect
  • He spoke He said
  • a personality the personality of the streamer
  • to felt tired from to grow tired of
  • Casell expressed felt
  • the genre's negative aspects such as?
  • one of the his one of his
  • Although this was the case, Although what was the case? Isn't he authentic by depicting his habit of alcoholism in his vlogs
  • In an interview with the BBC, Cassell spoke Cassell said
  • and in spite of this, "but"
  • acknowledged that he feels said that he feels
  • due to his encounters with fans, in proportion to his popularity maybe just "due to his popularity and his encounters with fans"
  • Despite efforts of becoming a YouTuber, Cassell said that the outcome of his growth was worth the effort. Despite the great efforts in becoming a YouTuber, Casell said that the outcome and growth was worth it.
  • His motivation for content creation prominently originated through goals, where he initially wanted to sustain an audience to work at a video game company. Split into two sentences... "He set goals for himself, which became his main motivation for content creation. He initially wanted to sustain an audience to work at a video game company."
  • Such goals include as channel viewership and subscriber milestones "His goals included..." and remove "as"
  • as his first milestone to 1 million subscribers was considered a prominent achievement in his career This might be redundant, as you've already mentioned subscriber milestones as his goal
  • In consideration of his success, Cassell expressed Considering his success, Cassell felt
— VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 07:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the wait in reviewing this article, I was busy with school. For future GANs, I recommend carefully reading through an article to catch mistakes and see if it flows well. I just need to review lede, "Other ventures" and "Personal life", then check images and sources and it should be good to go. — VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 07:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hey, it's totally fine! Real life always takes priority. I agree that I am pretty weak at prose work, so sorry about all the weird terms I put in here. Prose feedback can be subjective. I've recently found more time to improve this, so I'll go through the stuff here as I go. Sparkltalk 23:10, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In lede and infobox:
  • consisted of consists of
  • to his desire of an into in
  • where he started with a gaming computer he bought using his money from McDonald's. The body says he purchased, more broadly, gaming equipment with the money.
  • In 2008, he received a capture card to record his gameplay, and was inspired by quick montages of video game clips. Do we need this sentence? This paragraph is already plenty long, anyways
  • where he signed to the network through a contract offer to produce monetized content for the first time. Shorten this
  • During the growth of his online presence, Redundant, remove this for length
  • The further success of his Twitch channel made it become His Twitch channel was the first
  • Both of his YouTube channels have a combined total of 12.2 million subscribers and 2.7 billion views. "His two YouTube channels"
  • Should the lede mention the sexual assault allegations
  • Shouldn't the infobox contain his vlogging channel as well? Vlogging is described as one of his main genres and in the lede, and the final sentence in the lede mentions it
Wasn't the vlogging channel covered by reliable sources? — VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 00:14, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The vlogging channel is covered by the BBC, The Daily Dot, and Yahoo News, so I included it. Sparkltalk 00:21, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In Other ventures:
  • The business was is?
  • inspired from inspired by
  • interpreted believed
  • prominently supported by Primarily due to
  • similarly featured in the mobile game Marvel Avengers Academy as the voice of Loki just voiced Loki
  • for the premiere at the premiere
  • He had raised ₤75,000 He raised
  • comprises is comprised of
  • He initially contacted the record label at a charity event, and was broad about his choice of music. Split this up into two sentences. Maybe "The album had a variety of genres"
In Personal life:
  • and quoted that and said
  • and explained that he reconstructed and he reconstructed
  • more gaming-like space something feels off about this. Maybe "gaming-oriented space"?
  • called his residence a described his residence as a
  • that fans have gained synthesis from their findings through Cassell's college route and Google Street View to trace his place of residence "that fans have traced his place of residence though Cassell's college route and Google Street View"
  • as he had separated seperating
In Sexual assault allegations:
  • She spoke she said
  • same city the same city
  • Additionally, shouldn't Witcher's allegations of a 2012 incident come before Casanova's of a 2016 incident? They are also introduced in this order
  • Cassell denied the allegations, where he attributed the situation as describing the situation as
  • He argued said. This is his claim
— VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 08:27, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done this section. Sparkltalk 00:07, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article is stable and does not have any current content disputes
  • All images are CC or public domain and have captions (there's a small problem as I am unable to access the video where the lede photo comes from, as it is private)
— VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 08:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • All the issues above have been addressed. Sparkltalk 00:07, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Most sources seem good when checked against WP:RSP and WP:VG/S; just a few I've noticed here.
    • I'm unfamiliar with Esports News UK. Its about page says that it accepts sponsored article requests, and the article cited certainly makes it seems like one. Is there any way that you could remove this in favor of other sources?
    • minus Removed It was used to cite the name of his clothing company (which oddly has never had its name mentioned), but I replaced the sentence with "a clothing company". Sparkltalk 02:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Primary sources (including interviews and college sources) seem to be used appropriately, but same here for the college sources if some citations are unnescessary.
    • Unfamiliar with TwitchTracker. Is it on par with SocialBlade?
    • minus Removed By basic standards, yes. It was just there to showcase when Cassell started his Twitch channel. Sparkltalk 02:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Is the first Daily Mirror citation needed?
    • minus Removed It is used to cite that Cassell was the most subscribed solo gamer in the UK. Sparkltalk 02:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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