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Birthplace

Daniel Swarovski wasn't Polish: see official website - "founder Daniel Swarovski was born in Bohemia in 1862". [1] 81.132.104.43 01:20, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just because he was not born in Poland doesn't mean that he was not Polish. Maybe you'd want to do some more research. Up and over for a six! (talk) 21:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's possible, but unlikely, that he was Polish. According to the Czech WP, his birthname was Staffen, not a typical Polish name. Also, he was born into a German speaking family. Admittedly he was born to a single mother, so the father could have been Polish. However, "[h]e acquired the surname Swarowski, which was widespread in the area, only at the age of 5, after his mother's marriage to his stepfather, Franz Anton Swarowski (*1832), a glass engraver from Smržovka." (https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Swarovski)

company location

the english article says that swarovski ag is based in feldmeilen near zürich, switzerland. actually, it's based in wattens, austria (see this article or german wikipedia entry). --Mnolf 12:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above cited article refers to 1895. Multiple sources confirm the corporate HQ, Daniel Swarovski Corporation AG (aka Swarovski International Holdings), is in Feldmeilen. See Google. Tearlach 15:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wow, i guess you do learn something new every day ;-) thanks for the clarification. --Mnolf 17:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swarovski Crystal is still based in Wattens [2], but it's now one of the subsidiaries of the parent corporation (I guess they set it up in Zürich as it's the major financial focus of Switzerland) that manages the wider portfolio of Swarovski products. Tearlach 11:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Partnerships

Swarovski Crsytal and SOS Children's Villages - USA have indeed formed a partnership. There are sources to prove that. Flowanda, you continually remove the links and have deemed them as "non-notable unsourced content". ^[1] ^[2] ^[3] If more sources are required I have all of them readily available. --Apmolde (talk) 15:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

None of the sources I found indicate a U.S.-specific partnership; even the press release you used as a reference cited SOS Children's Villages as the beneficiary although the U.S. spokesperson was quoted. I added a NY Post citation that more closely matches WP:RS and replaced the press release link with a link to the SOS-kd.org corporate sponsor page, which provides better details of Swarovski's contributions. Flowanda | Talk 19:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the exact location of the mentioning of SOS Children's Villages - USA in the PR.com press release reference link that was located in this article. "Washington, DC, October 05, 2007 --(PR.com)-- SOS Children’s Villages, the largest international orphan care organization in the world, is recognizing World Orphan Week with Swarovski by auctioning off celebrity designed jean jackets on Ebay."
Washington, D.C. is the location of SOS Children's Villages - USA.

"'SOS Children’s Villages is thrilled to be partnering with Swarovski for World Orphan Week. Swarovski understands the needs of orphaned children around the world and with their sponsored charity auction of one-of a-kind celebrity designed jackets, they have joined us in an important way to make a difference to children who have lost everything,' says Dr. Heather Paul, CEO of SOS Children’s Villages USA."^[1] -- Apmolde (talk) 19:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swarovski supports the umbrella organization; the link I added was to the sponsor page that explained the relationship and history of this company's corporate support; yet you replaced it with a press release generated by the U.S. chapter about a single event. If information on the U.S. -- or other English-speaking -- chapter sites was better written or more detailed -- or there were special connection with the U.S. chapter (as was noted in the Sarah Ferguson and Johnny Cash articles), there would be reasons to include individual chapter references, but there are none as far as I can see. Flowanda | Talk 02:44, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, the sentence or two about SOS Children's Villages partnerships reads like a press release or advertisement, and is hardly a notable piece of historical information for a cororation with a history that is longer than one hundred years. It's silly and superfluous and not encyclopedia-worthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.197.7.22 (talk) 15:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.pr.com/press-release/55020

Swarovski Optik merge

Merger does not look like a good idea. The article at Swarovski Optik just needs to be expanded since they are notable in their own right. Mr Floating IP (talk) 08:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Swarovski Optik is a completely separate company from Swarovski Crystal and the other companies in the Swarovski Group. It does not make any sense to consider the two together. It should be expanded though. Capepolly (talk) 06:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I also oppose the merger as Swarovski Optik is a leader in its own field which is entirely distinct from the fashion brand. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marketing literature?

Parts of this article sound and feel like marketing literature. I'm going to make some minor aesthetic edits to reduce the size of the font used in a few places, however if the information pertaining to Swarovski brands and product lines originated from marketing material then it should be removed, or at least properly quoted. Maas15 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Why is there no detailed description of crystal forming process

This article has very little, if any, description of the technical details of the process that Swarovski uses to make the crystals.

Surly, there must be someone who works for or used to work for Swarovski who can describe how these crystals are made?

If the process is patented, then it's public information, isn't it?

Allyn (talk) 05:41, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have a similar point. The article states "In 2004, Swarovski released Xilion, a copyrighted cut." Copyrights are usually restricted to particular types of works, which would generally not include a cut. Now, it could be that Swarovski claimed that the cut crystal is a sculpture, but the "cut designed to optimize the brilliance of Roses" would undermine this claims as functional components are not protectible under many copyright regimes. Is there any record of copyright registration that we could rely on to confirm the actual copyright of the Swarovski cut as claimed in the article. Similarly, is there perhaps a patent or trademark filing, or is the claim merely FUD or ignorance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.208.53.195 (talk) 18:50, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vajazzled!

The latest chapter in the Swarovski story?

http://www.stylelist.com/2010/01/13/jennifer-love-hewitt-swarovski-crystal-vajazzle/

71.174.36.172 (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dead link. 2.31.162.90 (talk) 22:17, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion of Glass and Crystal

There is some confusion on this page between what a crystal is and what a glass is. A crystal has a regular, repeating atomic structure (apart from some small set of exceptions that are too technical for this post). A glass has no long range atomic order. These are contradictory terms by definition. Hence I have removed the "this is a crystal glass" in the introductory sentence and changed the discussion piece on the 'glass forming' process. However, this should not be categorised as part of the glass category and I can't figure out how to change its category - or even if I'm allowed to do that. Can someone please change this. The material scientist in me is dying.

There really is very little confusion as in common parlance glass refers to a relatively hard, usually, but not necessarily, silica based, usually translucent substance. A crystal is this parlance is a similar substance with additives which help the substance have a more ordered structure. We are not talking about glasses and crystals in the strict material science context.

Was Daniel Swartz a former name of Daniel Swarovski?

I've just inserted the folowing message in 95.35.20.97's Talk Page:
« Hallo, 95.35.20.97,
As a newcomer, maybe you aren't acquainted with WP general policies yet. If you only have a look at WP:Introduction and WP:Verifiability, you'll reasonably understand that no Encyclopedia may affirm anything without any verifiable references.
In the article Swarovski, your repeated deletion of tags asking for sources is considered disruptive editing: the normal procedure is to provide with some sourcing (or, alternatively, to discuss on the Talk Page) instead of simply deleting the tags.
You haven't still given any source for your statement that a former name of Daniel Swarovski were “Daniel Swartz”. Not only is this idea unsourced in the whole WP in English, but I've been unable to find it myself, neither in the Czech WP nor in the WP in German.
Provisionaly, I've just restored the tag asking for that source, hoping that you (or anybody else) will provide with some verifiable citations according with WP procedures.
שלום »
Zack Holly Venturi (talk) 19:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Czech WP does provide a different birth name. Rather than Swartz, it was Staffen (https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Swarovski).

Expand Upon the Retail

It is hard to go to an American-style shopping mall without finding Swarovski franchises. Such sudden growth in retail looks dubious. What is their business plan? How many retail locations do they have? Did they whore out to the Americans? Why does the article not discuss their unusual and recent retail growth following 2001? Which Americans elbowed their way in to it?

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Glass cannot be crystallic

Why this article claims otherwise?--Reciprocist (talk) 18:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Swarovski Entertainment

With Romeo and Juliet (2013 film) coming out and Swarovski Entertainment being one of the production companies of the movie, I was wondering if someone could include it somehow as a subsidiary with Nadja Swarovski being the Chairwoman and Executive Producer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aegis9001 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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"partnerships" section and "sponsorship&placement" section

should these be amalgamated? Most of whats in the partnerships section is unreferenced, and seems very unencyc in tone anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Japanscot (talk • contribs) 17:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Descriptyion of Wattens

It was link to wrong Tyrol. also "in Tyrol" is correct usage, just as "in California" or "in Bavaria", etc. --Altenmann >talk 23:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redundancy

@Altenmann: why have you repeatedly edited the opening sentence to read "Swarovski is an Austrian producer of glass based in [...] Austria"? Zacwill (talk) 23:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See my explanation just above. Also, "Austrian producer" may be based on Cayman Islands. --Altenmann >talk 23:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That explains why you changed the wikilink and why you removed the word "the", not why the opening sentence now contains two mentions of Austria. You're wrong by the way: the region is traditionally always known as "the Tyrol" in English. Zacwill (talk) 00:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? we are talking about an Austrian state, not region. Counties do not use the article. --Altenmann >talk 01:23, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-13257714.html

[2] ttp://familyrelationships.org.uk/2007/09/24/swarovski-shoes-off-celeb-designed-denim-jackets-supports-world-orphan-week-1-7-oct

[3] ttp://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5554/is_200710/ai_n21916868

[4] ttp://www.pr.com/press-release/55020

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