Talk:Surrey Chapel, Southwark

Roland Hill House

It says that Rowland Hill House, oppositr the original site is an interwar block of flats, when actually itwas built in the 50's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.127.82 (talk) 03:09, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Denomination

Is there any evidence that Surrey Chapel was a Methodist church? My understanding was that it was Congregational if anything. I am minded to take out the Methodist attributions unless someone can point me to relevant evidence.Sjoh0050 (talk) 17:30, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

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"Surrey Chapel, which stands on the eastern side of the road, at the opposite corner of Little Charlotte Street, about 500 yards from Blackfriars Bridge, is an ugly octagonal building, with no pretensions to any definite style of architecture. It is still often called "Rowland Hill's Chapel," after its former minister, the Rev. Rowland Hill, who, though the son of a Shropshire baronet and a deacon of the Established Church, became a Dissenter from conviction, and was for half a century the able and eloquent minister of a congregation of Calvinistic Methodists who worshipped here. He was eloquent, witty, and warm-hearted, and was for many years a power in the religious world, being on the best of terms with the more "Evangelical" portion of the national clergy. His wit was almost as ready as that of Douglas Jerrold or Theodore Hook. Once when preaching near the docks at Wapping, he said, "I am come to preach to great, to notorious, yes, to Wapping sinners!" Another day, observing a number of persons coming into his chapel, not so much to hear his sermon as to escape the rain, he declared that though he had known of persons making religion a cloak, he had never heard of it being made an umbrella before! His congregation were much attached to him personally, and always subscribed liberally in answer to his appeals to their purses; and he, therefore, compared them to a good cow, which gives the more the more that she is milked! His wife was too fond of dress for a minister's wife; and it is said that within these walls he would often preach at her by name, saying, "Here comes my wife, with a whole wardrobe on her head and back;" but this story is apocryphal. At all events, he always denied its truth, declaring that though he was always outspoken in denouncing vanity and frivolity, he was not a bear, but a Christian and a gentleman!" Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Co-ords?

Where was it? Co-ords would be useful for the table at List of Methodist churches. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:40, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Image

Here's an photo image from ebay: [2]. The listing there says:

"This appears to be the earliest photograph of this iconic building which dates from 1783 and was the Surrey Chapel. It was built by Rowland Hill, the minister, and was in use as a chapel until 1881. 1881-1910 it was a factory, 1910-1930s it was The Ring, a venue for boxing. The area of Southwark where it stood is still referred to as The Ring. The final remains of the building were flattened by air raids during WWII. This is an archival quality high definition 100 year + photographic print from a glass plate which was recently found. Notice it was still a chapel and the ordinary folk all wear bowlers and the gentry wear stove pipe hats, dating the picture to the 1860s. Predates the English Heritage photograph (then no longer a chapel, in its 'factory' stage.) by 20-30 years! There are many engravings showing the building as a chapel but this seems to be the only photo. When used as a factory the entrance porch became a 'glasshouse'. The site is now occupied by Palestra House, opposite Southwark tube station."

Is this image copyright free? If so, could it be used here? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2014 (UTC)