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Did you know nomination

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5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Arconning (talk) 15:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Happy for this to be approved once ALT1 mentioned below is added :) Arcahaeoindris (talk) 07:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This hook is super interesting and the article is great. I think maybe the hook needs rewording though as it's not clear that this "peace" came more than four decades later. How about "four decades after missing an event at the 1960 Summer Olympics, Suriname's sole athlete was found to have not "overslept"? I'm also waiting on the plagiarism checker to worki again. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 04:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Arcahaeoindris So that would be "... that four decades after missing an event at the 1960 Summer Olympics, Suriname's sole athlete was found to have not "overslept"? " Arconning (talk) 15:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arconning: yes, that sounds good. Please can you add this as Alt1? Thanks! Arcahaeoindris (talk) 07:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arconning, Arcahaeoindris, Schwede66, and SunTunnels: Hooks say 'four decades', article implies 45 years (1960 --> 2005). Numbers ending in a five round up, so these are not the same thing. I suggest spelling out "45 years". As for the wording, "to not have" jars way more than "to have not".--Launchballer 23:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To say "45 years" instead of "four decades" is clearly an improvement. As English isn't my first language, I shall stay away from commenting on the order of those three words "not – have – to". Schwede66 23:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If WP:DYKHFC wasn't a thing, I'd propose ALT2: ... that 45 years after missing an event at the 1960 Summer Olympics, Suriname's sole athlete was found to have not "overslept"?. The 2005 bit of the hook does need an end-of-sentence citation, and pronto.--Launchballer 00:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer Would this work? [1] Arconning (talk) 07:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't speak Dutch, so AGF. Whatever you're using, it needs to be in the article no later than the end of the applicable sentence.--Launchballer 08:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer I hope I did it correctly. Arconning (talk) 09:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That ref corresponds to the bit that says the investigation was in 2005. I think it should be at the end of the sentence ending 'not Esajas' fault' (which I've copyedited to remove an unattributed quote).--Launchballer 10:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer Done. Arconning (talk) 12:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's better, although I just noticed that "overslept" is not attributed anywhere in the article.--Launchballer 12:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it is, in the "Athletics" section. Arconning (talk) 13:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Once approved, please place this nomination in the Olympics: Special occasion holding area

GA Review

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Nominator: Arconning (talk · contribs) 13:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 19:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This looks an interesting article, and a recent Did you know currently sitting in the Olympics holding area. A cursory glance shows it is likely to be close to meeting the Good Article criteria. I will start a review shortly. simongraham (talk) 19:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Overall, the standard of the article is high.
  • It is of adequate length, with 1,036 words of readable prose.
  • The lead is reasonable given the length of the article at 152 words.
  • Authorship is 95% from the nominator with contributions from 13 other editors.
  • It is currently assessed as a B class article and a Did you know nomination.

Assessment

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The six good article criteria:

  1. It is reasonable well written.
    the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct;
    • The writing is clear and appropriate.
    • Add a comma after "but this did not occur" as the clauses are independent.
      • Where exactly is this?
    • Change "They did not qualify to the Olympics" to "…for the Olympics".
      •  Done.
    • Consider "The nation ultimately qualified one athlete". Is it the nation that qualified Esajas?
      • Nation refers to the team itself in this context, yes.
    • Consider rewording "traveled to Rome through a flight at the Amsterdam Airport Schiphol".
      •  Done, reworded. :)
    • Consider rewording the section describing what happened when Esajas entered the stadium. For example, "He was stated to be relaxed". Who stated this?
      •  Done.
    • I can see no other obvious spelling or grammar errors.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead, layout and word choice.
    • Suggest combining the three paragraphs in the lead to one or two as per MOS:LEAD.
      •  Done
    • Please remove the superfluous capitalisations of "Games" in the lead and first paragraph as per MOS:CAPS.
    • Consider the quote in light of MOS:BLOCKQUOTE. Note it is repeated in the text. Consider embedding the quote more in the narrative and removing the repeat.
      • I removed the quotebox instead, if this is what you're referring to?
    • It seems to otherwise comply with the Manuals of Style.
    it contains a reference section, presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;
    • A reference section is included, with sources listed.
    all inline citations are from reliable sources;
    • Please confirm that Olympedia is a reliable source.
      • It is a reliable source, it is owned by the International Olympic Committee and provides in depth information about the results itself. Other Olympic-related articles also utilize this site.
    • A cursory scan of Google books and, especially Dutch-language media (e.g, [[2]], shows a number of other sources that may be reliable.
    • Please check the weblink to "This Olympian Misses His Event".
      • Checked? I've added the maker of the newspaper, as well as the agency that provided the news.
    • Note the permanent link http://hdl.handle.net/10648/a9b77418-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84.
      • Replaced, if that's what you're looking for.
    • Spot checks confirm Boerboom 2016 and Maraniss 2008 cover the topic.
    it contains no original research;
    • All relevant statements have inline citations.
    it contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism;
    • Earwig and Turnitin gives a 31.5% chance of copyright violation, which means it is unlikely. The most overlap is with the article in the Sydney Morning Herald and mainly relates to the quote.
  3. It is broad in its coverage
    it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
    • The article is compliant.
    it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
    • The article is compliant.
  4. It has a neutral point of view.
    it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to different points of view.
    • The article seems generally balanced and covers the controversy well.
  5. It is stable.
    it does not change significantly from day to day because of any ongoing edit war or content dispute.
    • There is no evidence of edit wars.
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    images are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content;
    • The images have appropriate CC tags.
    images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
    • Images are appropriate. Although not a GA criteria, suggest adding ALT text for accessibility.
      • I have done this.

@Arconning: Thank you for an interesting article. Please take a look at my comments above and ping me when you would like me to take another look. simongraham (talk) 09:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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