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Contradictory statements

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I have removed the following two statements that contradict each other: 

For example, some seaweeds hailed as superfoods contain natural toxins which are thought by some to increase risk of cancer and liver damage.<ref name= "Hill2007"/> This statement is however incorrect, the cited article refers to Microcystin, which are produced by certain freshwater cyanobacteria (not seaweeds). Thusfar no poisonous seaweeds have been discovered according to [http://www.seaweed.ie/ The Seaweed Site].

I'm putting them here for discussion. Deli nk (talk) 00:10, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since this content is really about human health, we'd need WP:MEDRS. These sources ain't that. Alexbrn (talk) 06:36, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How about a different example from the same source (https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/13/health.healthandwellbeing1) that can be verified by MEDRS sources:

Spencer points to the case of beta carotene which, eaten in its natural form, appears to work as an anti-oxidant, killing the free radicals in our bodies which can damage DNA and initiate cancers. When the compound was separated by scientists and ingested as a dietary supplement, however, it was found to increase the risk of certain cancers.

Of course, we're not going to use that quote. --Ronz (talk) 15:58, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Incomplete

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I'm taking a break from this article, but I have to say that it is leaving some stuff out. To be a full and complete article on this topic, it needs to address the following:

  • Antioxidants - what they are and whether the claims are true and how they function in the human body, also what foods were promoted for their antioxidants (acai, blueberries, red wine)
  • Separate sections for "superfruit" and "supergrain" - now that "superfruit" redirects here, and why ancient grains are better or worse than regular grains
    •  Done, terms explained.
  • Some of the most common superfoods are not even mentioned or linked on the page - Salmon, Kale
  • The history of marketing exotic fruits - how the banana was first marketed (on old revisions of the page)
  • Which nutrients are featured in superfoods - amino acids, antioxidants, fiber, fatty acids, B vitamins, other phytochemicals
  • Bod (talk) 20:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please address substantial changes here (3 by my count)

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@Alexbrn: I spent a bit editing the article to make it read better.

Please address the 3 changes of substance you disagree with here:

And if agreement cannot be reached, then let the c.e. changes stand. Bod (talk) 20:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:V is a core policy. You must support contested material with inline citations which directly support the text. Alexbrn (talk) 20:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So you want these citations? Bod (talk) 20:56, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, those sources are just examples of marketing hype, which you are buying completely. None of the examples given has any scientific basis for being called "super". --Zefr (talk) 21:00, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The whole page is about a marketing term. What makes the page at all interesting is why certain foods are/were called "super" (omega-3, amino acids, wheatgrass, antioxidants, vitamins, traditional medicine) and whether there is any basis to that. Not all articles are science-based on wikipedia. Once the page exists, it is the burden of the editors to describe it fully. To not describe how it is a catch-all category for functional foods, exotic fruits, and traditional plant medicinal foods is to not accurately represent the term. Bod (talk) 21:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Article example

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This article from LiveScience (https://www.livescience.com/34693-superfoods.html) maybe shows how a good article on the topic should be structured and what should be covered. To summarize the structure:

  • Intro highlighting ambiguous definition but also describing healthy diet
  • Examples of foods and nutrients. "nutrients that certain superfoods contain include antioxidants, thought to ward off cancer; healthy fats, thought to prevent heart disease; fiber, thought to prevent diabetes and digestive problems; or phytochemicals"
  • Criticism section
  • Conclusion showing skepticism but highlighting benefits
  • Bod (talk) 22:00, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Another example of you buying the hype. Livescience is completely non-expert and unscientific. Food is about health, and WP health topics are guided by WP:MEDRS sourcing. Please take a rest. --Zefr (talk) 22:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am content to rest on the WP article, and read the LiveScience article for now. It is good to know the stance on LiveScience as a source, because it seems fairly decent. Bod (talk) 22:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA24 - Sect 200 - Thu

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