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Debate with CoolDude about purpose/existence of page

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Feel free to talk about Suncrest Washington by editing this page.

Hmm, that doesn't seem to be quite the idea under current policy. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum or chat room. - Fennec 00:54, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Thats what a talk page is for though.

About Accuracy Dispute:


It's not "your page", we don't sign articles, and no-one cares where you live. Secretlondon 15:28, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Also - adding the protected message doesn't actually protect a page - only an admin can do thatSecretlondon 15:45, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

^I was requesting for it to be protected, all the edting was redicoulus, i have put it up on vfd, i don't wish for it to be anymore. As for the ban, I have almost unlimeted proxies i coud go though.

We'll ban your proxies too in that case. Don't be such a pathetic vandal. -- ChrisO 22:41, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
You will be banning till the day u die then, their are so many anonimus proxies in the world.
  • The admins probably won't give up banning you and other vandals for that matter, you don't own pages, wikipedia does and anyone can edit them, get used to it.

Good grief. This has to be the most pathetic, pointless edit war I've ever seen... -- ChrisO 23:01, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I agree, but, it seems CoolDude has given up editing it or CoolDude is just waiting us out, one of the two.--Ryan524 05:05, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Probably the latter. He keeps blanking this page, the article itself and his own talk page through proxies. -- ChrisO 17:27, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Regarding the VfD header, the preferred use is {{Vfd}} - not {{msg:Vfd}}. See Wikipedia talk:Boilerplate text#Shorthand for details why. Rossami


What is disputed about the acuracy of this? Thanks, Mark Richards 07:16, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

It's not entirely clear whether this is a real place, or just a trailer park. See Template:VfD-Suncrest Washington. -- ChrisO 16:25, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks, Mark Richards 20:01, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Candidate for Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars ever? -- VV 01:17, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I agree--Ryan524 20:34, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

At the risk of reopening an ugly debate, or possibly starting a new ugly debate, is Suncrest really the home of the school district, as the article states, or is is a part of it? Oh, and I'm sorry if this was asked above. I tried wading through the polemic, but my aneurysm was about to burst. Dukeofomnium 19:25, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Almost certainly only a part of it. Suncrest appears to be a housing estate "approximately 15 miles northwest of downtown Spokane and located in the southeast corner of Stevens County" according to http://inlandtour.debut.net/northside/suncrest.html . The school district website gives its headquarters as Nine Mile Falls, WA. -- ChrisO 08:46, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

From an edit summary in the edits history:

anyone is allowed to contibute, thats the point of a wiki, please lave my edit alone rather than reverting for no reason.

Doesn't that contradict itself? "Anyone is allowed to contribute, so please stop contributing." JIP | Talk 08:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sources Question

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How would you sight your source if you make a contribution based on first-hand knowledge? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.217.205.50 (talk) 02:53, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Per WP:SOURCES, "Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Luksuh 03:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why does this page exist?

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Seriously, who cares about this place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.192.197 (talk) 02:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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Hey, the Spokane Spokesman-Review newspaper has a ton of hits for "Suncrest" [1], but you need a subscription to see the full text. Anyone live up there, take the paper, and wanna have a go at expanding the article a little?

BTW, the Lake Spokane Outpost looks to be a fantastic source of WP:RS information on the community also. In fact, I think both sources could be used to beef up the article on Nine Mile Falls also, but that's a different kettle of fish... -- Rnickel (talk) 00:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Library

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I removed the paragraph on the library district for the following reasons:

  1. The library branch is not in Suncrest; the nearest one is in Nine Mile Falls, which has its own article.
  2. The paragraph was written like an advertisement for the library. Frankly it seemed like the purpose of adding the whole paragraph was to hype votes for the upcoming library levy in November.

Rnickel (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Chemist 14; Thanks for continuing to contribute to the article! On whether the library is indeed in Suncrest, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since it's an unincorporated community and consequently has fuzzy boundries by definition. I appreciate your removing the plug for the levy. I've tried to continue improving things by adding compliance to a couple of important Wikipedia standards:
    1. All info in the article should be cited from sources that qualify as what Wikipedia calls "reliable sources". You had only cited the library website itself; third-party sources are better because they are more objective and less self-promotional.
    2. Entries in the encyclopedia have to conform to a neutral point of view and in particular, need to avoid the use of "peacock terms" which hype the subject and are therefore inherently non-neutral.
    3. Time references need to be tied to a concrete date (e.g. 1996) rather than using a reference that is relative to the present (e.g. 14 year ago).
    4. There were a couple of specific facts you mentioned for which I couldn't find sources, so I flagged them as such. It would be good if you could reference your source on both statements. (I could not find any mention of either statement on the library website that you had referenced.)
Best,
Rnickel (talk) 20:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Rnickel, I like what you did. As i am new to this I will leave it how it is for a while until I can edit it better. What made me mad is that you deleted everything instead of reediting it to make it better so i hoped to come to a compromise which we did. I am a resident of Suncrest and have been for 10 years and I know my home but I have never found the exact dates. I know where to look for my facts and sources and being how I live here there are not sources online for info and facts yet that info is true and so are the facts but I cannot prove them. I will work to make the info better and expand that part of the article and when I get better at this I will come back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemist 14 (talkcontribs) 23:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry, I shot from the hip a little bit there. I was glad that you followed up; I think your persistance has definitely made for a better article as, from what I've found, the library is obviously an important cultural element in the community. Keep up the good work! —Rnickel (talk) 17:24, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The library is one of the main parts of out community. Thanks to the levy that is trying to get passed I now have some sources of info. I don't know wether or not these pages are permanent, but they will work for info sources meaning you can add them. The source is http://scrld.org/Library_info/strategic_plan_draft_20102015.html -Chemist 14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemist 14 (talkcontribs) 16:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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