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Spoilers

This article contains spoilers without warning, would somebody please tend to that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.205.208.31 (talk) 21:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that. It didn't occur to me. I'll do it now. Andrew Dalby 09:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I wondered why I couldn't see it, and then realised I have configured my preferences not to show spoiler warnings! Anyway, I have edited one in. Please let me know if it doesn't show up. Andrew Dalby 09:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Case of Title > Upper or lower?

Why is this article, and the title of the book have the second word in lower case:

"Suite française"

Should it not be:

"Suite Française"

What's the scoop? WikiDon (talk) 22:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

First book: Typed or handwritten????

In the article it says:

:...was written in microscopic handwriting in a single notebook..."

At this website, http://pagesperso-orange.fr/guillaumedelaby/3_pi_telegraph_041023.htm, it says:

"The first novel, Storm in June, was typed. The second, Dolce, written as paper became scarce, was in minute handwriting."

Which is right? WikiDon (talk) 22:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The manuscript and its rediscovery

In the article is says:

"The notebook containing the two novels was preserved by her daughters but not examined until 1998."

&

"Ironically, her elder daughter, Denise, kept the notebook containing the manuscript of Suite Française for fifty years without reading it, believing that it would indeed be a journal or diary too painful to read. In the late 1990s, however, having made arrangements to donate her mother's papers to a French archive, Denise decided to examine the notebook first."

But, this website: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/guillaumedelaby/3_pi_telegraph_041023.htm, says:

"Not until the 1970s did she open the book "properly", after her Paris home was flooded and she decided to move it to the safety of a shelf.
Over the next 20 years. Miss Epstein painstakingly read and transcribed, over and over again, her mother's text."

Which is it wizit? WikiDon (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Cause of Death?

Was she murdered or did she "just" die? An edit took out the phrase "had been murdered" and replaced it with "was dead". So if someone locks you up in a camp with miserable sanitary conditions, poor shelter and inadequate nutrition and you eventually die of typhus, you weren't murdered? The word "killed" seems more apt. In law murder requires malice aforethought and while there was a lot of malice in the Holocaust, it wasn't specifically directed at her. WikiDon (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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Controversy Subsection

It seems to be more about her writings in general and not about this novel in particular. A quick glace at Némirovsky's main article looks like the paragraph has just been copied from there. I'll leave this here, but if no one objects within a few days, I'll just delete the paragraph from this article. 71.223.156.246 (talk) 13:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

There has been controversy for some years about the 'Controversy' section.

There is no indication at all in the novel that it is written by a Jew. The novel has no Jewish characters and (as far as I remember) not a single mention of Jews. The allegation that the author was a self-hating Jew is irrelevant here; it belongs in the article about the woman herself.

I hope there will now be some discussion on this Talk page. I am going to remove the 'Controversy' section. I am the second editor to do so recently, and I propose that it should not be restored unless good reasons are given by two other editors. April 31st (talk) 13:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)