Talk:Suga Free

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Name?

His Birth name is Dajuan Louis Rice (Dajuan is spelled incorrectly in the "article"), however his CA I.D. states: Dajuan Louis Walker, His mother (Linda Witherspoon) changed his last name during high school. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.0.204.66 (talk) 03:53, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

"he was originally royal rock d ,then went by the name pure pimp" -- is this vandalism or just bad English? Savant1984 02:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This must have been removed before I got there. My guess is that these are names he took before Suga Free, or else names someone thought he took, and that it's just bad English. I doubt they're really important enough to mention at present. Faseidman 05:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where was Suga Free incarcerated?

The article says he was in county but I heard he was in Chino. Maybe both? at any rate, some sources would help...--Rockero 17:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite sure how to quote song lyrics, but Street Gospel is full of references to being in L.A. County Jail. Track seven is called "I Wanna Go Home (The County Jail Song)", and one of the lines is "in the L.A. county jail/I'm gon' need that bitch!"

I know sources would help...I'm soooo bad at sourcing my articles. Faseidman 00:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On this topic a little further, one of the interviews I read said implied that he'd been in jail more than once. My guess is that he probably has been in both, and maybe others. Can't remember the interview - if I find it when I'm sourcing the article I'll put it in. Faseidman 05:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

he was in chino. i gave him a ride funny thing he was just released to his friends house and it was furtuitious.. later he wrote the song Thinking, as he speaks on the picture of me that childrends father had of me of the wall and i quote. D*** i miss that ****** b****.. Proud of you D, shine brightly no matter what i been watchin. 166.181.86.235 (talk) 09:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing and Weasel Word Discussion

This article is full of weasel words: "supposedly", "many fans said", "may have changed", and so on. Researching the subject and citing references would help make it concrete. -- Mikeblas 15:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. Looking over it again you are right. Removed weaselling, and added more citation needed modifiers, will try to source in the next few days.

Things like underground hip-hop are hard to source effectively because so much of the information is word-of-mouth - I mean, there are hip-hop fans out there who are functionally illiterate. People don't tend to research it much, at least not in ways I know of. Any advice on how to cite relatively transient sources such as underground hip-hop message boards and/or underground music journalism articles would be appreciated. Faseidman 15:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If no references are available, perhaps the subject isn't notable enough for an article. -- Mikeblas 16:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong. For one thing, I didn't say no references are available. I said they're hard to cite effectively.

For another, whether or not I can source it effectively, Suga Free is considered a major player in the underground Southern California rap scene. He's done tracks with Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, Tha Eastsidaz, Chingy, AMG, Mausberg, and of course DJ Quik - and that was nearly all just on one album [[1]]. It's hard to find underground rap fans in So Cal who haven't heard of him, in my experience. I'm not offering this up as any kind of reference or source material - I know that it doesn't represent any kind of real source - but this is a talk page, I'm not lying, you can verify it yourself on the Net if you like.

As I've said, I will attempt to get around to sourcing this thing sometime in the next week. You can wait for the sources if you like, or perhaps you could even try to help out by doing it yourself! But, if not, can you at least try to be constructive instead of playing policeman? Faseidman 05:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean, then, by "hard to cite effectively". If you're trying to explain that the only sources of information on this fellow are verbal, then I'd think that material isn't viable for the encyclopedia -- which stipulates that content must be Verifiable. -- Mikeblas 20:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The sources I am speaking of would be written, and verifiable - however, while I'm fairly good at traditional-style sourcing from encyclopedia articles, research papers and whatnot, I'm not as familiar with techniques for sourcing things like hip-hop music reviews. As I said, I will be attempting to improve my skills in that direction, and redoing this article at that point when I do so. Cheers... Faseidman 16:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i was the first and there through the beginning i will not devulge nor speak ill of him or anything or anyone.. everyone has a story no one needs to know all of it cuz u could be entertaining the devil herself... so please with due diligence be graceful as was spoke on me without a lot of detail (but D my birthday? man put a knot in that stocking cap and put it on lolololollllll I wont tell if u dont lol 166.181.86.235 (talk) 09:20, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just added the producing credits for the album, and his two future albums which will be released in 07. The sources are recent interviews himself, J-Steez and Kokane have given on DubCNN.com.

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Origins

Suga free is speaking and rapping of the hardships he had/haves with his mothers child,even though it's harsh it's how he explains his issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.90.23.243 (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i need to get that lynn was a wonderful and beautiful person.. that just made me understand people life and how to understand it in a way most just dont understand.. she helped mold me and ill never forget her words to me... AND I WEAR THEM TODAY BROKEN IS A CHOICE.. #IMUNdEFEATED 166.181.86.235 (talk) 09:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"...later becoming based in..."?

Does "...later becoming based in Pomona, California" mean the same thing as "moved to Pomona, California"? If so, why not use the latter and avoid the tortured grammar depicting Suga Free as being "based" somehwere? 97.126.231.253 (talk) 03:11, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]