Talk:Sudeki

Sources

"The title Sudeki derives from Japanese word wonderful (素敵, suteki?), though some find it amusing the title is closer to steak (ステーキ, sutēki?)."

There seems to be no source for this. A leading member of the team actually said to me that the name is just made up and that the resemblance to suteki (wonderful) is a mere coincidence. Whoever wrote that bit could post their source - otherwise it'll have to go as unsourced speculation. 193.64.250.107 08:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, the story is this: Someone posted cut-and-paste trivia from MobyGames (which is not exactly all the times reliable to begin with); I reworded everything it had. If this is disputed, however, I think it's better to be just struck off rather than left, because, as you say, there's no source for that. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 17:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

May I clarify the history of the name.

The title of the game was decided by asking members of the development team at Climax for suggestions. Microsoft was to choose from the suggested titles, and I, Miko, suggested the romanization of "素敵" ('suteki'). However, when Microsoft XBox division picked this, they misspelled it, and thus it became 'sudeki'.

JGarry 16:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)James R. C. Garry (husband of, and typing on behalf of, Yasumiko Garry, the lead animator at Climax)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Cafu?

It says that under the Characters Heading, that there are eight playable characters. However, I have completed the game several times and have not once been able to play as Cafu, which I find sad that, as since he is Elco's Shadow Counter Part (and since Cafu is my favourite player), you should be able to play as him. Can you possible change the article so that it says there are 7 playable characters, but 8 main characters or something please? Or if you can actually play as Cafu, can you tell me where/how please? Cheers. -- §Lacky§ 00:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Sudeki in Japanese

Sudeki needs a Japanese article. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Guinness Gamer's Edition

I've seen Sudeki mentioned in the Guinness Gamer's Edition for 2010, as one of the top ten RPGs to be played; I can't remember the exact catagory it was listed under, nor where to place it in this article, but I believe it would be a significant achievement to be recognised. How should this be handled? 122.106.238.201 (talk) 05:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Notes

• [1] - Metacritic
• [2] - Washington Post
• [3] - Quite awful as a review; person has a bone to grind about a tangentially related subject
• [4] - Paywalled. Based on other articles I've seen from this paper, I don't expect it to be of any real quality
• [5] - IGN; Hilary Goldstein does good reviews
• [6] - Is this a staff writer?
• [7] - PALGN
• [8] - Eurogamer.
• [9] - GR
• [10] Yahoo Games via Wayback
• [11] Game Informer via Wayback
• [12] GamesRadar via Wayback
• [13] Gaming Nexus

Sven Manguard Wha? 03:54, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sudeki/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Alexandra IDV (talk · contribs) 10:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh right, this game - I remember seeing used copies of it at GameStop and being baffled by the outfit the character on the cover is wearing. I'll be back with a review soon.--Alexandra^IDV 10:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Images

• Reasonable use of fair-use images: cover art for identification, screenshot for explanation of gameplay, and production art illustrating aspect of development

References

• Seems fine - uses RSs, and staff's websites

Infobox

• Avent, Simmons, and Lynch are only mentioned in the infobox, without any sourcing
• Would recommend taking full advantage of the cover by adding a caption identifying the characters depicted

Lead

• Set on the splintered world of Sudeki, now divided into the twin planets Illumina and Akloria - does "now" add anything?
• anime aesthetic - would reword as "anime-inspired aesthetic", and link anime

Gameplay

• You don't mention HP and SP again after introducing the concepts, making me question if its necessary to bring up the acronyms in the first place
• Questioning whether "skill points" really should be capitalized (regardless of whether it is in-game). Same for skill strikes, skills, and cinematic spirit strikes - these are regular words, not proper nouns.
• use the blacksmith to purchase and upgrade weapons sounds strange to me, as I'm assuming the blacksmith is a person. I would suggest rewording to say you can revisit the blacksmith to do those things.
• talking to certain NPCs lead into side quests - leads into side quests.
• Save points are found at different points through the environment. - "at different points" is unnecessary, it's already clear that the save points aren't all located at the same spot. Can be reworded as "...are found throughout the game".

Synopsis

• which is currently united under the Bright Empire - does "currently" add anything?
• the four are first defeat a siren monster - should presumably read as "the four first defeat..."
• allowing Sudeki reunify. - I assume this should be "allowing Sudeki to reunify."

Development

• Microsoft manager Peter Connelly said that Japan was failing to deliver RPGs for the Xbox - it's Japanese game companies that weren't developing Xbox RPGs, not the country of Japan
• the title was changed due to potential confusion with a similarly-titled series. - do we know what series this was?
• The game was originally planned to be called "Suteki" - originally is not the right word here, because as you mention earlier in this section, the game was at first titled Symphony of Light
• which can roughly translates from Japanese - "which roughly translates". Also, consider linking suteki to wikt:素敵.
• so much opening lore than the opening "that the opening"
• producing "literally hundreds" - do we need to quote this? Can't we just write "producing hundreds"?
• Tal's original version - "Tal's original design", right?
• its current technology-infused version - "current" implies it could change again in the future. Would recommend changing to "its final..."

Release

• As part of its promotion, several notable voice actors were brought in to dub the characters - it does feel strange to say they are notable, and then not actually note who they are.
• The cover art was designed by manga artist Yamato Yamamoto. - would specify that this is the cover art for the Japanese release only
• The GOG version was delisted on 28 May 2020 - do we know why?
• Microsoft, owners of the Sudeki IP, - would recommend writing out "intellectual property"

Reception

• The entire first paragraph needs to be more specific about the time frames it's talking about - September of what year? Ranked #25 for what period? The 78th best-selling Xbox game in Japan of all time or of the year or what?
• customization - rest of article uses customisation etc
• Hilary Goldstein of IGN, found it - extraneous comma
• I'm not gonna hold up the review for this, but the structure of the final paragraph is pretty repetitive.

I will put this on hold for the usual seven days - ping me when you have addressed the above or if you have any questions!--Alexandra^IDV 14:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Alexandra IDV: I've done my best to address all the points above. As to the ones I couldn't address properly, no the other series wasn't specified in any of the sources I could find, and no reason was given for the GOG takedown. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I'll try to find a source that states why was Sudeki delisted from GOG... (Update: No avail unfortunately...) Roberth Martinez (talk) 23:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you (and thank you Roberth for checking) - I will promote this now--Alexandra^IDV 12:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)