Talk:Subantarctic fur seal

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Animalia as a source

Regarding the use of Animalia as a source, and this edit - How do we know that "this information was on Animalia before it was on Wiki[pedia]"? How do we get the history of Animalia's page? Currently Animalia lists only two references, Wikipedia and IUCN redlist, the latter of which does not cover most of what's in the Animal page. I suggest that we should assume that - in the absence of specific evidence to the contrary - Animalia may have taken significant information from Wikipedia, so we need a better source. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WayBack Machine's first snapshot of Animalia in July 2020 (which may or may not be the first version of the page) includes Wikipedia as a reference. Wikipedia's article was created in 2004. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This citation is definitely dubious, because the text has been there as far back as 2015, so clearly it was added long before the ref - and the ref cited could well have simply taken it from Wikipedia years ago.

This material added could reasonably be cited from Animalia, because it wasn't in Wikipedia before, so Animalia could not have copied it from Wikipedia. But it's a close paraphrase, so needs a re-write to avoid WP:COPYVIO. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then, I will restore the animalia citations which have information not previously found in this article. Troopersho (talk) 19:15, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]