Talk:String Quartet No. 16 (Beethoven)
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[edit]I put up a stub flag on this article. Beethoven's op135 certainly deserves a page more than the current version, despite that the page was created in 2002. Frigoris 16:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Variation form uncommon?
[edit]From the article: "For the third movement, Beethoven used variation techniques, which is uncommon for pieces written in sonata form." That's really not true. Many, many sonata form works have a variation form slow movement. The ninth symphony comes to mind immediately, but there are many others. NeverWorker (Drop me a line) 12:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
- You are right. Haydn also did this quite a bit. I removed it the statement about it being uncommon.DavidRF (talk) 13:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Material from Beethoven Project
[edit]I've found some great material which can be incorporated here:
Martin Saving. "Must it be? Must what be?". The Beethoven Project..
Bubka42 (talk) 03:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Added some description of the movements, though I'm not sure if the poetic extracts from Earsense are very encyclopaedic. Also found an entire thesis on the quartet! Bubka42 (talk) 06:11, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
More on variations
[edit]"For the third movement, Beethoven used variation techniques; he also did this in the second movement of his Quartet op. 127." In fact, Beethoven included a theme-and-variation movement in every one of the late quartets except Op. 130! I have removed the sentence. The entry now has little useful information, though plenty has been written on the quartet. I hope somebody will take some time with it. Opus131 (talk) 05:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
still, more could be said.
[edit]Variation form: not uncommon, I agree. A scherzo whose trio rises a step on every appearance - less common... Schissel | Sound the Note! 01:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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