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Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 07:12, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for taking this on. I'll be working on it a bit at a time. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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Infobox and lead
[edit]- Don't note UK and US after the labels but keep them in the infobox
- Removed. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Mention the song being by Fleetwood Mac before you mention the writer
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Identify them as a British-American rock band
- First American member joined in 1971, three years later. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- "It is an" → "The song is an"
- Chagned. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Sure twelve shouldn't be 12?
- Changed (looks better). —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- WikiLink to Twelve-bar blues
- See Footnotes. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "The song was first" → ""Stop Messin' Round" was first"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe move the info about the initial release to the first para?
- Trying to approach on the song, rather than the release. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- "The song is included" → "The song has been included"
- Re-worded. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "and Aerosmith have" → "and Aerosmith, have"
- Done. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Mention reception somewhere here, including what most critics commented on
- Added. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Remove ref 1 as that is sourced in the body
- Removed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Lyrics
[edit]- "Fleetwood Mac's "Stop Messin' Round" is credited" → ""Stop Messin' Round" is credited"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "often used by the group's manager" → "often used by Fleetwood Mac's manager"
- Reworded with Ghmyrtle's clarification. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- "Only two 12-bar verses" → "Only two of the song's 12-bar verses"
- Added. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "He uses" → "His version uses" and are you sure this shouldn't be in the releases section?
- Mitchell, not FM. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Target "Stop Breakin' Down Blues" to "Stop Breaking Down"
Recording and musical style
[edit]- Are you sure this shouldn't be above lyrics section?
- There's more background info in Lyrics, so it works better chronologically. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- "(and future McVie wife" → "(also future McVie wife"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "Perfect and saxophone players" → "Perfect, and saxophone players"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "album.[6]" → "album in 1968.[6]"
- Added. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "more typical of live performances" → "more typical of live performances for the song"
- This setup was used for the whole album. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "public address or PA system" → "public address system (PA system)"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "sees it as attempt" → "sees it as an attempt"
- Fixed typo. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Target Chess Studios to Chess Records
- See Footnotes. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Why is the word American included?
- Removed. Chicago and Memphis are already included. (At the time, some thought that studios in the UK couldn't get the bluesier or R&B sound). —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "such as B.B. King (to whom he was often compared)" → "such as B.B. King, to whom he was often compared"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Reception
[edit]- Add overview of the recepton (positive/mixed/negative etc.)
- Added. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- ""Mr. Wonderful's one gem"" → ""Mr. Wonderful's one gem""
- Fixed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Renditions
[edit]- "best-known songs" → "most well-known songs" more encyclopedic
- "of the song, that appears" → "of the song, which appears"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "In a 1996 review in" → "In a 1996 review for"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Introduce who Aerosmith are
- Added. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "what we do best."" → "what we do best"."
- A complete sentence is quoted, so used punctuation "within" (MOS:INOROUT). —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "played the song at" → "played the song during"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Footnotes
[edit]- WP:NOTBROKEN includes "There is usually nothing wrong with linking to redirects to articles. Some editors are tempted, upon finding a link to a redirect page, to bypass the redirect and point the link directly at the target page. However, changing to a piped link is beneficial only in a few cases. Piping links solely to avoid redirects is generally a time-wasting exercise that can actually be detrimental. It is almost never helpful to replace
[[redirect]]
with[[target|redirect]]
." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- WP:NOTBROKEN includes "There is usually nothing wrong with linking to redirects to articles. Some editors are tempted, upon finding a link to a redirect page, to bypass the redirect and point the link directly at the target page. However, changing to a piped link is beneficial only in a few cases. Piping links solely to avoid redirects is generally a time-wasting exercise that can actually be detrimental. It is almost never helpful to replace
- Target "44 Blues" to "Forty-Four"
- As above. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Target "Stop Breakin' Down Blues" to "Stop Breaking Down"
- As above. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- "Peter Green's response" → "Green's response"
- Changed. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
References
[edit]- Template:Cite web#Parameters includes: "Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.) ... Not normally used for periodicals. Omit where the publisher's name is substantially the same as the name of the work." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Refs 3, 4, 18, 21, 22, 25, 28 and 33 should cite AllMusic as the publisher
- See below. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Refs 15, 23, 24 and 31 shouldn't use at
It's automatically added when using Template:AllMusic (also removes italics): "The template can be used for any link to AllMusic's website, including the 'External links' section or when citing it as a source." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)I did some more checking and remember problems using the AllMusic template, so I'll change all these to the regular citeweb. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Changed so all consistently use the same cite web format. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 20 should have Official Charts Company as the publisher
- See below. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 30 should cite Guitar World as the website not Guitarworld.com
- In the case of Guitar World, Variety, Billboard, etc., the websites are different than their print magazines. I'll look into this. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- This explains use of work/website and publisher. Generally, 1) whatever the webpage is titled should be used (the ".com" is usually not part of it); 2) publisher= is not needed if work/website name is substantially the same or is well-known. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 36 should cite Variety not Variety.com
- As above. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 37 should cite PopMatters not Popmatters.com
- As above. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Final comments and verdict
[edit] On hold until the changes are done and maybe include an image of the writer? --Kyle Peake (talk) 13:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- Added with tie-in to guitar. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Add alt text
- Added. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- I think this takes care of it. Thanks for adding the archive links. Let me know if there's anything else. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- ✓ Pass, well done --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:39, 21 February 2020 (UTC)